[palmer]

Rand Paul is a nice guy but he is compromised. The white hats report summed things up nicely. I believe there is a Deep State. But that doesn't answer the questions of their agenda and who controls it. I suspect there is loose control dating from Cold War times. I have a tiny bit of experience for which I won't bother giving details that suggests the CIA was in bed with everyone during the Cold War, specifically all the "allied" intel agencies, all the "enemy" agencies, the UN, etc.

The reason for their Cold War MO is that it is easier and much more pleasant to drink wine and eat brie with both your "friends" and enemies than to get stabbed in a back alley. When 9/11 hit that had to end, but they didn't want it to end.

The deep state is all about open borders, selling out the American worker, America as a puppet (rather than America First) as your White Hat link suggests.

[shalom aleichem]

Absolutely right. Now the CIA and IC are in open rebellion against the President. They see their job as providing intel to the media, which uses it against Trump at every step. Like Clappert and Hayden recently at Aspen Security Forum last week trashing everything Trump is doing. This should be strictly forbidden. They are still bound by their confidentiality seals. Of course Hillary and Comey have make a mockery out of preservation of classified information.

[rodguy911]

Great summary we think quite alike.
CIA was established arond 47 it’s been corrupt ever since.
THe real story of 911 was the first bombing attmep by the blind shiek and the company that did the renovation which was anythng but. IT was Owned by ex CIA types.
YOull have to look up the rest.