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Investigation Reveals Navy At Fault For Massive USS Fitzgerald Collision
dailycaller.com ^
| 7/21/2017
| Jonah Bennett
Posted on 07/21/2017 10:42:18 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman
Radar Operator, Officer of the deck sanding watch, radioman, helmsman, CIC, a bunch of people not just one screwed the pooch. The freighter radioed the Fitzgerald, the radar operator and Combat Information Center (CIC) in the dark bowels of the ship should have detected the approaching vessel, all traffic in the lanes should have been monitored, once the ship was approaching all reverse or flank speed to avoid the intersect course and immediate course correction to port should have been ordered. Basic seamanship stuff were asleep at the con.
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posted on
07/21/2017 3:18:03 PM PDT
by
Mat_Helm
To: SauronOfMordor
Did you check the source they linked to ? We have that technology, and it's operational, and was proved effective on October 22, 2012.
Do you know about CHAMP and its capabilities ?
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posted on
07/21/2017 3:22:22 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: gaijin
Was reading about a man missing off of a Hawaii island, happened many years ago.
He and friends were out on some kind of catamaran or something and disappeared. They disappeared in an area where the Navy was having target practice, shooting at objects that were similar in size and shape to the catamaran.
After the disappearance, Navy would not let anyone into the area where the people went missing.
And, a few years after that, I think, the Navy actually shot a ship passing through the area, accidentally.
To: LonePalm
What part of CBDR (Constant Bearing, Decreasing Range) did they NOT understand? I learned Constant Bearing Means Collision in HS math class. Course it could mean the opposite - if the range is increasing. Which would be pretty much excluded as a possibility if the magnitude of the bearing from the faster ship to the slower one is .GE. 90 degrees off the bow . . .
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posted on
07/21/2017 3:49:14 PM PDT
by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(A press can be “associated,” or a press can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
To: SauronOfMordor
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posted on
07/21/2017 4:35:08 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: rlmorel; UCANSEE2
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posted on
07/21/2017 4:38:58 PM PDT
by
TXnMA
("Allah": Satan's alias. "Islam": Allah's assassins"; "Moderate Muslims": Islam's useful idiots.)
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Attention to detail is one of the slices, perhaps the one with the most holes.
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posted on
07/21/2017 4:43:43 PM PDT
by
Gamecock
("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
To: Gamecock
I was thinking vigilance, which admittedly subsumes attention to detail.
To: Yosemitest
Except that the Crystal DID have it's transponder on.
There was another ship (Wan Hai 266) in the area who's transponder was only transmitting intermittently.
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posted on
07/21/2017 5:00:04 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
To: SauronOfMordor
China's new microwave weapon can disable missiles and paralyze tanks
An electronics-killing ray has a variety of uses in war.
By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer January 26, 2017
This weapon, which can pump out high-powered microwaves from a relatively small platform, could be the start of a new chapter in Chinese electronic warfare.
For over 6 years, Huang Wenhua and his team at the Northwest Institute of Nuclear Technology in Xi'an have been working on a potent microwave weapon. This one, which recently won China's National Science and Technology Progress Award, is small enough to fit on a lab work bench, making it theoretically portable enough for land vehicles and aircraft.
Said another way: it's small enough to be convenient, but powerful enough to totally down enemy electronics. A microwave weapon like this could even be fitted to a missile (like the U.S. CHAMP electronic warfare missile) or drone.
Generally, microwave weapons shut down electronic systems (even those with traditional shielding against EMP) by bombarding the target with energy pulses between 300 and 300,000 megahertz. This amount of directed energy interferes with and overloads electronic circuits, causing them to shut down. The higher the energy produced by the system, the greater the disruption (and even physical damage for some very high-powered microwave weapons) of the targeted electronic systems like engines and communications systems.
China can find a wide variety of uses for an electronics killing ray. Defensively, microwave weapons could be part of electronic warfare booby traps, ambushing and disabling enemy vehicles and robots. At close ranges, it can be mounted on vehicles, warships, and even aircraft, to disable and distract missiles, small UAVs and even the personal and vehicular electronics of hostile forces. But the real combat potential of the microwave weapon comes in offense. Carried in by a stealthy drone or cruise missile, it would be able to disable sophisticated enemy defenses like SAM and anti-ship missile batteries; fry enemy radars, communications, and control systems; paralyze tank battalions; and even neutralize other EW platforms.
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posted on
07/21/2017 5:17:10 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
Take Florida Maquis' videos with a HUGE grain of salt.
I have repeatedly ripped him for unwarranted speculation.
FReepmail me for my YouTube name if you are interested.
"Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam."
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
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posted on
07/21/2017 5:18:26 PM PDT
by
LonePalm
(Commander and Chef)
To: deport
Yep. That’s what did the damage. Almost like the old ramming prows on a Roman trireme.
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posted on
07/21/2017 5:30:47 PM PDT
by
IronJack
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
There are experts in the Navy and retired Navy that question whether that other ships might have use the assigned transponder code of the ACX Crystal, causing the sudden jumps in its position on the secondary radar track,
"
Florida Maquis" has a lot of very good information about this on his YouTube Channel.
THIS WAS A COORDINATED ATTACK on the USS Fitzgerald !
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posted on
07/21/2017 6:18:03 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: TXnMA; UCANSEE2
I saw that too, but I suspect it was something like 200 square feet. Obviously, if it were a rectangle 17x12, that would be different, but I suspect the 17 at the widest point tapering off, etc.
I don’t have high expectations for the media to get anything right, especially when it comes to military matters.
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posted on
07/21/2017 6:26:16 PM PDT
by
rlmorel
(Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
To: LonePalm
Based on what I know about transponders, primary radar, secondary radar, satellite radar, and aircraft, he seems to be fairly knowledgable to me.
But my expertise is Air Traffic Control, and mostly in the tower.
But I have some radar experience, and I've been in several Air Route Traffic Control Centers, Terminal Radar Air Traffic Control Facilities, Radar Approach Controls, Ground Control Approach Facilities and many ... many Control Towers.
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posted on
07/21/2017 6:30:49 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
And there is someone who has seen the data showing where the ships were and knows that the Crystal was always visible.
Now the Wan Hai 266 which was on a parallel course with the Crystal did have have a transponder that kept cutting out making the ship appear to "jump".
Was the Fitzgerald concentrating on the Wan Hai 266 to the extent that they completely overlooked the Crystal?
It certainly makes a lot more sense than trying to say the Crystal was not transmitting when it was and that it was attacked by some sort of targeted EMP that somehow did not touch any other ship in the area.
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posted on
07/21/2017 6:35:49 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
To: Yosemitest
I'm not sure if Florida Maquis could fine his butt with a map, flashlight, both hands, and a GPS receiver.
I am NOT impressed with his wild conspiracy theories.
He extrapolates so far beyond his data that they aren't in the same time zone.
"Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam."
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
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posted on
07/21/2017 7:24:24 PM PDT
by
LonePalm
(Commander and Chef)
To: rktman
the U.S. Navy is at fault. Destroyers and massive cargo ships are not made to be meet together, even for an instant, any more than those of the same gender are sexually. Having sanctioned the latter it is flitting that the Navy realized the former. But at least it realizes that mismatch is wrong.
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posted on
07/21/2017 7:25:00 PM PDT
by
daniel1212
(Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
To: IronJack
"It looks to me like all the damage to the container ship was high up on its bow. Where did the waterline damage to the Fitz come from? Is the civilian vessel a bottlenose hull?"
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posted on
07/21/2017 7:29:33 PM PDT
by
TXnMA
("Allah": Satan's alias. "Islam": Allah's assassins"; "Moderate Muslims": Islam's useful idiots.)
To: TXnMA
There is more to it than that.
There is a "Damage Alignment Problem" to address.
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posted on
07/21/2017 7:54:20 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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