[LouAvul]

Taxes have nothing to do with HD's issues. HD quality has deteriorated steadily over the last ten years or so while prices have increased. Plus, the aging baby boomers just aren't buying new bikes. Check Craigslist. Bunch of HDs for sale at bargain prices.

Kind of looks like the ARs for sale on Armslist.

Finally, people who are inclined to buy new are waiting for the M8 motor on the 2018 HDs. It's supposed to be a game changer.

I don't own a Harley. I ride a Triumph Tiger, but I belong to a Harley forum. Lifelong Harley riders bemoan declining quality control on bikes that cost over $20,000.

HD is apparently controlled by accountants, not riders.

[Dalberg-Acton]

The new M8 engine has the same design flaw that HD will probably never change. Look at where the piston rods attach to the crankshaft and how they try to address the inherent balance problem:

[DungeonMaster]

Finally, people who are inclined to buy new are waiting for the M8 motor on the 2018 HDs.

Now that's interesting!

[Seruzawa]

I own a Tiger also. Love the 500lb wet weight and the comfort is better than a Gold Wing. My wife loves the back seat, also better than the GW. I’m so used to the agility and power now that I can’t ever see going back to a big twin or other touring gunboat.

I don’t hate Harleys at all. I sometimes think about restoring an old ironhead Sportster. But I couldn’t go back to HD for a daily rider or tourer.

[Charles Martel]

Plus, the aging baby boomers just aren't buying new bikes. Check Craigslist. Bunch of HDs for sale at bargain prices.

Kind of looks like the ARs for sale on Armslist.

Look at Cycletrader.com - and click the "View All Brands" tab. Some brands have a few dozen examples listed. There are over Fifty Thousand used bikes for sale under the H-D name. How many does Harley build each year?