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Iran Dominates in Iraq After U.S. ‘Handed the Country Over’
New York Times ^ | July 15, 2017 | Tim Arango

Posted on 07/17/2017 5:43:41 AM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai
The troops never should have been there in the first place.

"It's not our job to turn Iraq into Switzerland." -- Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)

21 posted on 07/17/2017 6:19:54 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Alberta's Child
#3:"implemented by that retarded baboon in the White House at the time."

I've never been disappointed in a president as with Bush 2. I really had great expectations of him. I remember waiting, waiting, waiting for him to do something about the border and illegals. Crickets.

And that war, useless loss of American lives, wasted treasure. 16 years later, a weaker America.

22 posted on 07/17/2017 6:21:55 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: Alberta's Child

on the campaign trail, Trump had the best foreign policy ever.

sort out ISIS and then get out.

make America Great Again.


23 posted on 07/17/2017 6:21:59 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: Olog-hai
Not without Obama’s help, though. His “peaceful” overtures helped Iran’s belligerence too.


Obama was a de facto agent of Islam who intentionally handed Iraq over the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS and Iran.

Bush saw what happened to Iraq when Clinton took over from his father and screwed Iraq post Desert Storm . Had Clinton not screwed up the post Cold War world so badly, there would have been no need to go back to Iraq.

Bush knew Obama would be even worse than Clinton. Bush could have set up a long term troop agreement to stabilize post war Iraq but he refused because he wanted to be courteous to Obama and not tie his hands on Iraq, but more than anything else, Obama needed his hands tied on the post war stabilization of Iraq.

24 posted on 07/17/2017 6:22:40 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

I disagree with your assessment of “two Bush presidencies.” Iraq was destined to be a disaster from the start, and a lot of folks were banned here on FreeRepublic (or left on their own) because they pointed this out all the way back in 2002 when the Bush Kool-Aid drinkers insisted that it was all going to be a piece of cake.


25 posted on 07/17/2017 6:22:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
The good news is that GWB also ensured that his brother would be less popular than a child molester in the 2016 primaries.

Donald Trump owes the success of his campaign to three people: Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and George W. Bush.

26 posted on 07/17/2017 6:24:39 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Olog-hai

The Valerie Jarrett Doctrine is working throughout the Mideast.


27 posted on 07/17/2017 6:26:03 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Alberta's Child

For the right purpose, they could have done a lot of good. But not for “spreading democracy”, obviously.

Not even Iraqi Sunnis see themselves as Iraqis. They see themselves as part of the Arab League, a terrorist alliance in its own right, and the longer-standing cause of terror in the region and against the USA.


28 posted on 07/17/2017 6:26:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Iran is a Shiite majority country, Iraq is a Shiite majority country. Once we toppled the Sunni minority that was keeping a boot on the Shiite neck then moving closer to Iran was inevitable. Even if Obama and Bush had handled the war and occupation competently this situation would have happened anyway.


29 posted on 07/17/2017 6:34:12 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

The only “right way” was to use Afghanistan and Iraq as pincers for the purpose of eliminating the Iranian threat, thus weakening even the Arab terror threat greatly in the process. But Bush went along with the Democratic Party’s plans instead.


30 posted on 07/17/2017 6:37:34 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Only time will tell. In 2014, some Freepers were predicting a doomsday takeover by ISIS. One thing is certain now — Iraq is at peace with its neighbors and the USA, unlike under Saddam.


31 posted on 07/17/2017 6:38:03 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: Socon-Econ

Iraq’s at peace with Israel? No place with an Islamic constitution is ever at peace with what they call the “Zionist entity”.


32 posted on 07/17/2017 6:45:48 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
The major problem with Iraq and the Middle East are they are chock full of Muslims. There will never be any peace there because Islam is not a "peaceful" religion. It is a war cult bent on conquest of all. They will happily murder each other to ultimately set up their Caliphate for the mass murder of Infidels and Jews.

This is ultimately a spiritual battle, not simply a political one.

33 posted on 07/17/2017 6:47:24 AM PDT by Gritty (Islam is king on a field of corpses - Mark Steyn)
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To: rdcbn

It started with the old hands. Paul Bremer was in over his head from the start. There should have been a military proconsul a la MacArthur in Japan for at least 3-4 years.


34 posted on 07/17/2017 7:10:22 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MichaelCorleone

I think that history will ultimately show that Bush II was at the point of no return, and flew us over the horizon. That was the time we could still reverse course. And we didn’t.

Trump may buy us time, but the American, and Western, rot seems terminal at this point.


35 posted on 07/17/2017 7:13:55 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Why defend the EU?)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“..and when you see Israel encompassed by armies...” It is happening, folks. The chess pieces are being put into place.


36 posted on 07/17/2017 7:16:47 AM PDT by ghostkatz (catslivesmatter....all 9 of them)
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To: ghostkatz

Luke 21:20 references Jerusalem specifically. So that means the armies therein mentioned are already on Israeli soil.


37 posted on 07/17/2017 7:24:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie; Alberta's Child
'Retarded baboon' and a morphed image of a chimp?

Really?

Must we stoop to the level of the Left in criticism of GWB? Do we need to speculate on how Al Gore would have handled 9/11?

No, this is not a knee-jerk defense of 43: his handling of immigration was atrocious, and his tendency toward government solutions over the free market (ie. 'compassionate conservatism') was troubling in the least. Actually, his biggest failing IMO was his inability to hit back at his detractors: something DJT understands at his core.

38 posted on 07/17/2017 7:26:25 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Olog-hai

All thanks to GWB and Oblahmao. All those American lives and treasure for what? So the mad mullah’s can have Iran. Stupefying.


39 posted on 07/17/2017 7:38:35 AM PDT by tflabo
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To: MichaelCorleone

I think as history unfolds the destruction of Iraq and execution of Hussein will go down as one of the most colossal blunders of all time. Not to be outdone Obama repeats blunder in Libya.Such forlorn imbecilic leaders we come up with.


40 posted on 07/17/2017 8:16:45 AM PDT by Bonemaker
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