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Below is a link to a petition posted asking that Pagans sign regarding the environment.

As a Pagan who actually reveres Nature's Laws and Natural Law in governance, let me say that we are not a monolith; these people do NOT speak for all Pagans.

It is true that the neo-Pagan movement is dominated by the Hard Left. Hence, a High Priestess who participated in training/educated me un-friended me for posting a quote from Ayn Rand. Likely she would not have been so offended if the quote were instead by Mao, Marx, Che or some other Leftist asshole with blood on their hands. It is also true that none of my conservative connections here -- including many evangelicals -- have unfriended me for being a Pagan. By contrast, at least a dozen fellow Pagans have cut me off for being a conservative. As it is with feminists, ethnic advocates, LGBTQ leaders, they are Leftists first -- and everything else second. ---------------------- The petitions starts off with several paragraphs of vague platitudes about how wonderful the environment is and how we are dependent upon it.

But then, we get to their assessments of the causes and then their solutions: The cause is capitalism. The solution is government action to curb economic growth and reduce our population. The only way this could be accomplished is through a centralized government with powers well-beyond protecting freedom and human rights. Only a singular global regime that is unaccountable to the population could make this happen.

I am a conservationist, not an environmentalist. The latter considers homo sapiens to be a vermin on this Earth, so we should have our numbers reduced -- as well as our prosperity. A conservationist, by contrast, holds that we should not waste or pollute, because the resources are finite and, as the Planet's only sentient beings, we have responsibility to protect species that are vulnerable due to our activities. But our solutions actually are result-oriented and respect our freedoms. For Environmentalists, the solution is an end in itself -- control, control, control. When they complain about our growing population, only Westerners are to be subject for extermination. The far more prolific Third World is exempt.

"Sustainable, renewable" resources are of limited benefit. Organic farming, for example, results in less productive acreage. Pesticides are eschewed, so more of the crops are destroyed. Fertilizers are not used, so each plant is not as productive. And Genetically Modified crops are disdained, so the use of pesticides, excessive tillage are needed to make up for the losses.

And of course, the Anthropogenic Global Warming canard is freely dispensed as the Gospel. When I was coming of age, we were told that capitalist smog would blot out the Sun and create a new Ice Age. Then it became Global Warming. Most recently it is referred to as Climate Change so that no matter which way the thermometer goes, it can be blamed on capitalism, the United States and George W. Bush.

The fact that many polluting countries are exempt is telling. Also illuminating are the complaints about the President withdrawing from international Environmental agreements refer to a loss of monies that would have otherwise been distributed to corrupt Third World regimes.

1 posted on 07/16/2017 2:47:15 PM PDT by walford
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To: walford

The second dude. I like him. We can coexist.


2 posted on 07/16/2017 3:02:28 PM PDT by dasboot (Nuanced foreign relations is the germ of international misunderstanding.)
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To: walford

Can’t wait for the definitive statement on Global Warming from Delphi. I am sure it will be something pithy from Pythia.


3 posted on 07/16/2017 3:19:14 PM PDT by Reily
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To: walford
Global warming caused by our emission of greenhouse gases...

That's #FakeScience.

Physicist Howard Hayden's one-letter disproof of global warming claims [pre-Climategate]

Dear Administrator Jackson:

I write in regard to the Proposed Endangerment and Cause or Contribute Findings for Greenhouse Gases Under Section 202(a) of the Clean Air Act, Proposed Rule, 74 Fed. Reg. 18,886 (Apr. 24, 2009), the so-called "Endangerment Finding."

It has been often said that the "science is settled" on the issue of CO2 and climate. Let me put this claim to rest with a simple one-letter proof that it is false.

The letter is s, the one that changes model into models. If the science were settled, there would be precisely one model, and it would be in agreement with measurements.

Alternatively, one may ask which one of the twenty-some models settled the science so that all the rest could be discarded along with the research funds that have kept those models alive.

We can take this further. Not a single climate model predicted the current cooling phase. If the science were settled, the model (singular) would have predicted it.

(excerpted from Professor Hayden's letter to Lisa P. Jackson, Administrator Environmental Protection Agency. More at link.)


4 posted on 07/16/2017 3:19:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (Investigate the Awan brothers and Wasserman Schultz)
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To: walford

“Global warming caused by our emission of greenhouse gases has already contributed to sea level rise, ocean acidification, and increased floods and droughts, “

Dag! I just head on Cnn that Miami has been abandoned.


5 posted on 07/16/2017 3:30:54 PM PDT by Captain7seas (UNexit. Make America Great Again!)
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To: walford

I’m going to take a wild guess that the author of this “Eco Pagan” article does not live in a mud hut in the woods like a REAL pagan. Instead, he’s just another hypocrite like all the other global warming shills.


6 posted on 07/16/2017 4:04:00 PM PDT by henkster (Ask your favorite liberal to take the "Snowflake Challenge.")
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To: walford
... but rather that we are part of Earth, just as a volcano or river is part of Earth and its cycles ...

If we are part of the Earth our actions cannot possibly harm the Earth any more than a volcano hurts it when it erupts, or a river when it overflows.

This statement is pure sophistry. Do not fall for it.

7 posted on 07/16/2017 4:23:39 PM PDT by mwilli20 (DJT, let's MAGA!)
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To: walford

Polytheism. Too many gods, competing with other gods, having sex with other gods, and humans....

Phooey!


8 posted on 07/16/2017 4:24:42 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: walford

Blessed be.


13 posted on 07/16/2017 7:03:52 PM PDT by kallisti (Both soliloquized alternately and imagined they were conversing)
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To: walford
Paganism is a family of spiritual paths rooted in ancestral religions throughout the world and predating recorded history.

If their spiritual paths pre-date recorded history, how do they know what they are?

14 posted on 07/16/2017 7:16:54 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: walford
As a Pagan

Ugh!

20 posted on 07/17/2017 7:08:53 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Viriycho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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