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US ranked worst healthcare system, while the NHS is the best(Hurl Alert)
New scientist ^ | 14th July 2017 | Andy Coghlan

Posted on 07/14/2017 7:55:45 AM PDT by Ennis85

A comparison of health systems in 11 wealthy nations has found the US falling short by multiple measures, while the UK’s National Health Service leads in several categories.

“We measured performance quality across five domains, and the USA fell short in all five,” says Eric Schneider of the Commonwealth Fund think tank in Washington DC. The domains were ease of access to healthcare, how equal access is to people of different incomes, administrative efficiency, how well the care process works for people who use it, and how good the health outcomes are.

The analysis included data from sources including the World Health Organization, the OECD, and questionnaires completed by people and their doctors in the 11 countries examined, which also included Australia, Canada, Germany and Sweden.

Overall, the US ranked last, although it ranked fifth in the care process category. The UK came top overall, but ranked tenth for healthcare outcomes – how well patients fare after treatment.

Unequal access

The US fell particularly short when it came to access to healthcare. The study found that in the US, 44 per cent of people on low incomes have difficulty accessing healthcare, and even 26 per cent of those on high incomes report access problems. The equivalent figures in the UK are only 7 and 4 per cent. “A higher-earning person in the US is more likely to meet cost barriers than a low-income person in the UK,” says Schneider.

The report says that, since President Obama’s Affordable Care Act (ACA) had been introduced, there has been some improvement, with access to healthcare coverage being extended to more than 20 million extra people in the US.

“The ACA has helped make major strides in coverage and access to care in the US, particularly for lower-income Americans,” says Benjamin Sommers

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: american; healthcare; medicine; nhs
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To: rigelkentaurus

Best for forcing patients to wait extraordinarly long periods for cancer screening.


21 posted on 07/14/2017 8:52:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: Ennis85
European Hospital - Note lack of curtains, been there done that ...
22 posted on 07/14/2017 8:55:42 AM PDT by 11th_VA (#notmyappealscourt)
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To: Ennis85

Hey US, where are your “waiting to die” lists?

Get with the govt paid healthcare(?) program.


23 posted on 07/14/2017 9:05:56 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: 11th_VA

For a minute I thought that you meant window curtains——and then noticed the lack 0f privacy curtains.

Dreadful.

.


24 posted on 07/14/2017 9:10:24 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Ennis85; All
Thank you for referencing that article Ennis85. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"US ranked worst healthcare system, while the NHS is the best(Hurl Alert)"

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Patriots are reminded that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes.

More specifically, as evidenced by the 10th Amendment, the Constitution’s silence about healthcare means that the Founding States had reserved “government” power to regulate, tax and spend for healthcare uniquely to the individual states, not the federal government, each state free to explore its own solutions for healthcare.

This is evidenced by the following excerpts, most of them clarifications of the fed’s constitutionally limited powers by previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices.

So unconstitutional (imo) Obamacare is based on state powers and uniquely associated state revenues that the feds have stolen from the states, state revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional taxes according to the Gibbons excerpt above.

Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!

Remember in November ’18 !

Since Pres. Trump entered the ’16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the ’18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.

Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist Supreme Court justices off of the bench.

In fact, if Justice Gorsuch turns out to be a liberal Trojan Horse then we will need 67 patriot senators to remove a House-impeached Gorsuch from office.

Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February ‘18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.

While I Googled the primary information above concerning Iowa and New Hampshire, FReeper iowamark brought to my attention that the February primaries for these states apply only to presidential election years. And after doing some more scratching, since primary dates for most states for 2018 elections probably haven’t been uploaded at this time (March 14, 2017), FReepers will need to find out primary dates from sources and / or websites in their own states.

Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.

Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed above.

25 posted on 07/14/2017 9:15:15 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Ennis85
Here's the short version of this story if you want to save time.

Socialists lie.

26 posted on 07/14/2017 9:20:03 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Ennis85

Yeah, millions of people flee from the USA to England for healthcare.


27 posted on 07/14/2017 9:25:02 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Ennis85
Washington Examiner Article

Excerpts from article.

A new report from LIBERAL think tank the Commonwealth Fun

The first giveaway that something is amiss should be the fact that the United Kingdom ranks as the top health care system of those studied. As I reported in a feature last fall, the U.K.'s National Health Service is facing severe problems and has been plagued in recent years by cascading scandals involving horrific neglect of patients.

The problem with the Commonwealth Fund study is that it’s rigged to produce a result that favors socialized health care systems. The study determines that the U.S. system is worse because it lacks universal health insurance coverage and the report emphasizes “equity” as one of the key factors in evaluating a health care system.

The study also doesn't mention cancer outcomes. As it turns out, the U.S. ranks well ahead of the U.K. in five-year survival rates for 22 out of 23 types of cancers, according to data from the American Cancer Society.

The study also relies on surveys of patient satisfaction, which are subjective, because they vary based on people's expectations. If people have low expectations, then a system with objectively bad health outcomes could still be viewed as satisfactory.

28 posted on 07/14/2017 9:28:55 AM PDT by JesusIsLord (uite some time.)
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To: Amendment10
While I agree with your tactics for candidates I think it should be recognized that its highly unlikely the government is going to return to limiting itself to powers enumerated in the Constitution no matter who we send to Washington. The system is just too far gone. Too many are entrenched for elections to turn it around. Our government is absolutely infested with statists. Elections do not replace but a very small fraction of the seats of power at anyone time and most seats of power are not even subject to elections.

The only peaceful solution is the one provided by the founders and that is an article V convention. This takes the federal government out of the equation. The situation we currently face is the very reason the founders added the provision for states to call a convention. It's way past time to focus our effort on getting this done.

29 posted on 07/14/2017 9:36:28 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Impala64ssa
Thanks for sharing your personal story.

Some time ago I took my wife to Sloan Kettering, where she was diagnosed with stage 1 breast cancer (she's still in remission 8yrs later PRAISE G-D ALMIGHTY!). In the waiting room we were literally surrounded by people from the Great White North and from across the pond. More recently on of the emirs from Saudi Arabia flew in to Mt Sinai for emergency open heart surgery done by a "nice Jewish doctah"

We know a man who used to run focus groups for MDs. He retired, and a couple of west coast heart by pass centers offered him a ton of money to do focus groups in Canada for primary docs. The goal was to get them to send patients to the hospitals he represented. He retired again, after making a ton of money.

Every once in awhile, we hear about a rich Saudi or an Opecker Prince or a Latin American dictator in need of a heart transplant for themselves, a family member or mistress. Flying into a local airport getting on an ambulance or helicopter and taken to a heart transplant facility for a new heart. No waiting on a list. Of course that wouldn't happen would it?

30 posted on 07/14/2017 9:36:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Trump is not a Republican suffering from post traumatic press syndrome...!!!)
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To: Ennis85

I call BS, Obamacare fixed it.


31 posted on 07/14/2017 9:41:07 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Ennis85
“The ACA has helped make major strides in coverage and access to care in the US, particularly for lower-income Americans,” says Benjamin Sommers.

Total, pure, unadulterated, horseshit.

32 posted on 07/14/2017 9:58:09 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: Ennis85
“The ACA has helped make major strides in coverage and access to care in the US, particularly for lower-income Americans,” says Benjamin Sommers.

Total, pure, unadulterated, horseshit.

33 posted on 07/14/2017 10:00:26 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: USS Alaska

It was so much crap, I had to post it twice.


34 posted on 07/14/2017 10:02:34 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: precisionshootist; All
"While I agree with your tactics for candidates I think it should be recognized that its highly unlikely the government is going to return to limiting itself to powers enumerated in the Constitution no matter who we send to Washington."

Thanks for replying.

It’s a matter of Constitution-savvy patriots getting low-information voters up to speed with the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers imo.

Everybody should read Free Republic.

Enough enlightened voters could put a big dent into sending state sovereignty-ignoring lawmakers home in the 2018 elections.

35 posted on 07/14/2017 10:28:17 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Ennis85

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/charlie-gard-parents-storm-out-u-k-court-hears-sick-n782491


36 posted on 07/14/2017 11:04:37 AM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (---->VMFA 235- '69 -'72 KMCAS <--- F4 PHANTOM FLYING BRICK)
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To: Ennis85

There is NO way that the patients would say that! And they’re the ones that count.


37 posted on 07/14/2017 11:09:43 AM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Ennis85

Ha ha ha. Well. Everyone run to the UK for their health care, then.


38 posted on 07/14/2017 11:15:42 AM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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To: Ennis85

What good is a medical system that is unaffordable except to the very rich and the very poor?

The best technology in the world is worthless if it is not accessible wihout ruining your finances.

Our medical system is a monopoly that takes nearly 1/5th of our economy and wants more. It is harvesting our labor because it can.


39 posted on 07/14/2017 11:41:29 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Ennis85

“A higher-earning person in the US is more likely to meet cost barriers than a low-income person in the UK,”


40 posted on 07/14/2017 11:42:45 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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