Posted on 07/13/2017 3:31:00 AM PDT by tedbel
I met Mudar Zahran, currently the Secretary General of the Jordan Opposition Coalition (JOC), some six years ago and have kept closely in touch with him over the years. I watched the JOC being formed and take shape, just as I watched their plan Operation Jordan is Palestine (OJIP) take shape. The goal of the later is:
“To establish Jordan as the Palestinian homeland, in accordance with international law, where refugees will be settled within safe and secure borders, allowing Israel to become a fully recognized, sovereign state over all of its soil, including all land west of the Jordan River.”
To make this possible, King Abdullah needs to abdicate.
While I agree with this Plan, I never promoted it personally, at least not until Donald Trump was elected president. I believe that if Pres Trump is won over by the plan, he can (and will) make it happen. It will mean the end of UNRWA and the PA.
In April, in the hope of winning him over, I wrote The Ultimate Alternate Plan. I am currently lobbying for this plan in the US.
In June of this year, Zahran and his staff started the International Jewish Muslim Dialogue Center (IJMDC) together with Zionists in Britain, where he has lived for years, and the United States. He and his staff then went on to organize a Conference on the subject The Jordan Option – The ultimate alternate solution to be held in October in Jerusalem. I agreed to be the Chairman of the conference.
A couple of weeks after they started promoting this conference on social media, the shit literally hit the fan.
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Oh come on. Give Jordan to the Palestinians?
They would turn it into a crap hole just like the Gaza Strip and the West bank.
No, the point is, they already have a home, and it is Jordan.
Since the “Palestinians” are Jordanian, this makes complete sense. That is why this idea will never work.
Prior to the 1967 war, Gaza was Egyptian territory. Give the Egyptians some money to allow Gazans to move to Egypt, and then shut off ALL foreign aid to Gaza, so that they have little choice but to move to where the jobs are. Jobs OTHER than being terrorists.
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Been tried before...
Black September...1970
Didn’t work out to well for the Palis
But it’s good to be King!
Gaza must be obliterated........ in total
Then other avenues can be addressed.
Screw the Europeans. If they object, Severely damage Paris and Berlin. Make them pay through the teeth
I frankly do not care where the damn Muslim inbreeders go as long as they stay in their own damn countries and get the hell out of America plus all of Europe. Yes, I met some very sharp educated Egyptians. They were not Muslims. The Muslim lovers on this site, one particular one who was in Saudi Arabia for years should have talked to our pilots who had to train theirs. They have no night vision from years of inbreeding as they marry relatives to keep the wealth in the family. Inbreeding causes many other problems.
Kind of, being 70% of the population. But palestinian is kind of a made up ethnic/cultural group. As is King Abdullah's Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, a European creation. The Hashemites ruled Mecca for over 1,000 years until the Saud's threw them out in the 1920s. The Brits felt bad, so they gave the Hashemites Jordan, the beginning of their Monarchy.
What is this obsession the Israeli Jews have with so-called "international law"?
Law requires a lawgiver and a judge (at a minimum). Both the giving of laws and the judging of laws are attributes of sovereignty.
There is no "international sovereign", and in fact, the various tribes of mankind have such different views of the human person and the sources of right conduct that such a sovereignty would be, by necessity, a tyranny of vast proportions.
In the special case of Israel, this is of particular importance.
There are two possible sources of Israeli sovereignty "from the river to the sea". The first is Genesis 3. The second is "UN resolutions".
As far as I am able to tell, most Israelis subscribe to the "UN resolutions" explanation.
But this raises the problem of what to do when a UN "resolution" tells the Israeli Jews to get out.
Phony "international law" is not the Jews friend. It is their deadly enemy.
Ted Belman needs to abdicate.
So it’s bad to give one country to the Palis, but great to give another country to the Palis?
That’s called hypocrisy.
It’s also stupid to give a state to a terrorist group, but that’s another issue and was called the Balfour declaration.
Better question - “Who are the Palestinians?”
Are “Palestinians” Jews, Christians, Muslims or just people who live in Palestine?
Well “Palestinians” are a self identified group that came into being after Israel, so yes, it is an identification for political purposes only
True. It seems international law is always seen as what each nation perceives is best for them, so; it appears there are as many versions as countries. We should finally throw the damn UN out of NY plus get the hell out of it. Same for the worthless world bank.
Jordan is and always was mostly “Palestinians”. That is why in the initial war with Israel and it’s aftermath Jordan formally annexed “the West Bank” into Jordan proper. The beef the king of Jordan had later came from the fact that Jordan was not a democracy, the king was a dictator and there was no political process in Jordan by which a political player like Arafat, or anyone else, could be part of the political process. The point is not that Arafat was a “bad guy”. The point is that anyone else challenging the rights of a British appointed “King” over the people of Jordan would run into the same reaction from that king.
The kings of Jordan just like the kings of Saudi Arabia have ALWAYS played the western leaders for fools, the fools they are for believing they are “moderates”. They’re not. They have won face they show to “the west” and another they rule and live by. The face they do not show to the west is not “western” in values, sentiments or long term objectives. They use the west, and do it better than any “allies” of the west ever have.
It is said that a skunk never changes his stripes.
And we know from experience that the so called "Palestinians" never change their self destructive ways.
It's in the blood of all those cursed with being muslim.
And we have such a dismal record with regime changes you can bet that any alteration in the status quo will end up making things worse instead of better.
Here is what Sir Winston Churchill had to say back in 1899 about those afflicted with Islam:
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensual-ism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step;and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."
Decades ago, didn’t Arrafat begin organizing a coup in Jordan that resulted in the PLO being tossed out of the country?
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