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Well Lookie Here=> Russian Lawyer Veselnitskaya is Pictured with Obama Ambassador to Russia – 8..
gateway pundt ^ | 7/11/17 | jim hoft

Posted on 07/11/2017 4:40:39 PM PDT by blueyon

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To: ptsal

In some cultures it is just plain ok to lie, cheat, and steal. Think moozlems to promote Sharia. Think lefties saying you can keep your doctor. Think Gypsies-opps-politically incorrect. My chinese buddy says that in their culture it’s ok to break any rule as long as you don’t get caught. Guess that makes us chumps as long as the Rats or the establishment types are in charge.


61 posted on 07/11/2017 6:28:31 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Ray76

We all know why. The question is whether Trump FINALLY does something other than tweet about it.


62 posted on 07/11/2017 6:28:44 PM PDT by hardspunned
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To: ptsal

There is another theory

Found by looking at mcfaul tweets

Leading to

Russian FT reporter

Musings

Chaika


63 posted on 07/11/2017 6:29:55 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: tophat9000

bookmark


64 posted on 07/11/2017 6:30:46 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: ptsal

He’s just some freelancer, I believe, he’s not with the NY Times.

I just read Sexton’s interview with the Columbia Journalism Review. He doesn’t say he had the emails, he just says he’s been working on “Trump-Russia” as a story for a year.

He is a tangent and separate issue from the NY Times and how they got the emails.

https://www.cjr.org/q_and_a/jared-yates-sexton-trump-jr-tweets-russia-qa.php


65 posted on 07/11/2017 6:32:21 PM PDT by Enchante (Searching throughout the country for one honest Democrat....)
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To: iontheball

“Fusion GPS needs to be investigated “. By who, Sessions? Someone better wake his worthless a$$ up.


66 posted on 07/11/2017 6:33:09 PM PDT by hardspunned
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To: blueyon

Bump


67 posted on 07/11/2017 6:34:52 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: heights

agree...i took an arms length approach when people were down on Sessions at the start but he’s been a huge disappointment... 3# sits on his rear end rather than appoint a SC to look into the collusion between the clinton campaign and ukraine...


68 posted on 07/11/2017 6:36:35 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Kid Shelleen; ptsal; HarleyLady27; Liz; Sarah Barracuda
The deluded self absorbed pajama man is having a nervous break down.

This is the dumbest and biggest crime in the history of American politics.
- Jared Yates Sexton

Here's Pajama Boy's sad tweet meltdown in a graphic....LOLOL!!


69 posted on 07/11/2017 6:41:13 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: heights; Enchante
"Who “Hacked” them or had access to his computer. Why is that question not being asked?"

Ahhh. I did not know that. Thanks for letting me know. Curiouser and Curiouser.

70 posted on 07/11/2017 6:49:07 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: ptsal

They are all over this on Reddit /thedonald some very good stuff being dug up about how this was a setup for the FISA warrant. A lot of connections being made. Obama, Clinton , Podesta , the entire DNC may have this sh!i blow right back in their faces.


71 posted on 07/11/2017 6:54:21 PM PDT by Runner4life
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“...thing is Don Jr took the bait.”

Or did he?

One thing about 3D chess...you need to wait until the very end to find out who was baiting who.


72 posted on 07/11/2017 6:59:42 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: tophat9000
This was The bait dangled by the Clinton campaign to get enough to justify a FISA Warrant by Obama to spy on Trump.

Truth is now I hope they were monitoring trump because all that evidence is still out there and obviously there was nothing else it already heard about it so it’s basically clears Trump. They’re down to leaking the original bait as the story

Very astute. It sure looks like this is what may have been going on, and like you've observed: lacking anything substantive on the President himself, the Swamp has been reduced to spewing out these smears of Trump associates and family, using some of this old information.

Hillary, 0bama, and the Democrats went on a fishing expedition against their political opponent—unethically and illegally using the machinery of the federal government and intel community to do their dirty work—and they came up with absolutely nothing on the President.

Eventually, all of slimy, scummy Uniparty Swamp Dwellers' corrupt machinations will be exposed, and several of them will end up going down. Hard. There may be some more political casualties on our side as well. It happens with all revolutions.

Supreme patience will be required by the President's supporters, and there will be cases when it will be necessary to hold our fire. But ultimately, the Swamp will be drained. If the President is able to frame this as the People vs. The Swamp, the Revolution wins...

73 posted on 07/11/2017 7:01:39 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: blueyon

Ok then. So either:

- She is part of the Russian government and met a willing receiver of information and, therefore, had the PERFECT opportunity to divulge information to help Trump BUT DIDN’T - PROVING that the Trump’s didn’t work with the Russian’s to influence the election. (why hold anything back at this meeting?)

OR

- She is NOT part of the Russian government and it was a setup.

So media....which is it? At worst it shows there was no collusion, just a naive Trump Jr. showing willingness to hear something if they had it - listening is not collusion. Yes, there could have been more meetings but I’ve yet to see ANYTHING, no evidence at all, that shows how the Russian’s influenced the election. No evidence they were behind the email leaks. No evidence of being provided actionable information by them.

Collusion: secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others. “the armed forces were working in collusion with drug traffickers”

Even if he were to be provided TRUTHFUL information it is not illegal or looking to cheat or deceive. Even if it was collusion, it’s not illegal. Of course the left would be calling for Trump’s resignation because it “defiles the office of the Presidency”. This is what they’re going for.

It was dumb to not disclose this when he knew a 3rd party also had the email thread. It’s nothing more than; if he didn’t disclose this what else didn’t he disclose. So now this will go on and on.


74 posted on 07/11/2017 7:02:44 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: blueyon; LucyT; GregNH; LS; 2ndDivisionVet; appalachian_dweller; aragorn; Arthur Wildfire! March; ..

PING!!!

Article and comments, esp #19 (photo), #29, and #35 (link) and better photo at #51, and #52 among many other great comments.

Thanks, blueyon


75 posted on 07/11/2017 7:08:05 PM PDT by Whenifhow (when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
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To: Whenifhow

Thanks for the ping.

Reading through pings and posts is VERY difficult right now. Ap

FR has slowed down to a crawl, for me :(


76 posted on 07/11/2017 7:11:16 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: blueyon

Bkmk


77 posted on 07/11/2017 7:20:14 PM PDT by SueRae (An administration like no other.)
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To: Jane Long
"FR has slowed down to a crawl, for me :("

I'm on the east coast, and it seems to start dying once evening comes. Days are fine...but nights it really slows down.

78 posted on 07/11/2017 7:21:27 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: heights

They never saw them until today! It was BS!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/10/new-york-times-never-read-russia-email-donald-trump-jr/


79 posted on 07/11/2017 7:26:03 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: blueyon

Good job, Holt. Now, ask yourself.....about that time in history was it, that the DNC was running out of money and what might they have done to cover up the inflow of new money?

hints:
“The Democratic National Committee Is Broke” - Brietbart, Patrick Howley 22 Nov 2015

January, 2016 - “Veselnitskaya filed an affidavit in New York’s South District Court in January 2016, claiming that she had been denied a visa to the United States, but the country issued a parole letter for her to help defend [Denis Katsyv, the President of Russian company Prevezon Holdings and the son of Pyotr Katsyv, who has served as Moscow’s Regional Transport Minister.]. - Time, Alana Abramson, July 10, 2017

Feb 16, 2016 - “Obama: ‘Trump will not be president’ “- Harper Neidig, The Hill - 02/16/16 06:14 PM EST

Mar 1, 2016 - “Sanders raises $44 million in March” - Politico, Nick Gass 04/01/2016 06:11 AM EDT

Apr 8, 2016 - “Obama reassures Hollywood: Mr. Trump is not succeeding me” - Breitbart, Charlie Spiering, 8 April 2016

Apr 17, 2016 - “Democrats go big on fundraising” - Herald-Tribune, Zac Anderson Sunday, April 17, 2016

May/Jun, 2016 - “music publicist Rob Goldstone...told the Post he had set up the meeting “at the request of a Russian client,” whom he did not identify. Goldstone said in a statement that his client, Russian pop singere Emin Agalarov, had asked him to set up the meeting between Veselnitskaya and Trump Jr. because she had stated she had “in formation regarding illegal campaign contributions to the DNC.” - Time, Alana Abramson, July 10, 2017

Jun 2, 2016 - “Obama jumps into 2016, Blasts Trump Proposals as ‘crazy’ “ - NBC, Perry Bacon, Jr/Meet the Press, June 2, 2016

Jun 9, 2016 - cold-call meeting with Veselnitskaya/Agalarov

Jun 14, 2016 - “Obama Denounces Donald Trump for His ‘Dangerous’ Mind-Set” - NYSlimes, JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and MATT FLEGENHEIMER June 14, 2016

Jun 14, 2016 - Hoover Institution fellow Michael McFaul testifies at the US House Foreign Affairs Committee Hearing concerning “US Policy Towards Putin’s Russia.”

Natalia Veselnitskaya was [photographed] sitting with Obama’s Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul during a Foreign Affairs Committee hearing, 8 days after cold-contacting Trump Jr. in Trump Tower. Next to her allegedly was Emin Agalarov.

Jun 14, 2016 - Opening statement by Jack F. Matlock, Jr., Foreign Affairs Committee
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/FA/FA00/20160614/105061/HHRG-114-FA00-20160614-SD001.pdf

Jul, 2016 - “According to a complaint sent to the Justice Department from Hermitage Capital Management in July 2016...The letter alleged that Veselnitskaya was linked with the Human Rights Accountability Global Initiative Foundation.” - Time, Alana Abramson, July 10, 2017

Aug 2, 2016 - Obama Says Republicans Should Withdraw Support for Trump - NYSlimes - MICHAEL D. SHEAR and NICK CORASANITI AUG. 2, 2016

Aug 4, 2016 - Obama: Trump’s Statement That Election Could Be ‘Rigged’ Is ‘Ridiculous’ - CNN Wire, 1:11 PM, August 4, 2016

that should get y’all started...


80 posted on 07/11/2017 7:52:57 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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