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New Research Shows Guccifer 2.0 Files Were Copied Locally, Not Hacked
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Posted on 07/09/2017 2:28:09 PM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: Fedora

Well isn’t that special...


81 posted on 07/10/2017 12:23:09 AM PDT by piasa
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To: nicollo
"Also, any evidence out there that Rich knew Linux?"

"In 2014 [Rich] began working for the Democratic National Committee (DNC) as the Voter Expansion Data Director. One of his tasks at the DNC was the development of a computer application to help voters locate polling stations"-Wiki

Let's at least say based on that wiki, he was acquainted with Linux. It's worth noting that anyone even merely acquainted with Linux would also know that the primary way to get around a Windows platform password [and perhaps even copy data therefrom] is a Linux-based USB stick...

82 posted on 07/10/2017 12:34:36 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Prosecute the win. Run up the score.)
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To: henkster
"Just because Seth Rich downloaded the emails to a USB drive doesn’t mean that the Russians didn’t also hack into the DNC server. And just because the Russians hacked into the DNC server doesn’t mean Seth Rich didn’t also download the emails to a USB device."

Exactly. Rich may not have been the primary source, but could have been left holding the bag. Occam's Razor.

"The point is that it was the content of those emails, revealing the corruption of the DNC, that damaged Clinton’s campaign. Neither Seth Rich nor the Russians wrote those emails."

So true.

83 posted on 07/10/2017 12:40:07 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Prosecute the win. Run up the score.)
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To: piasa
Carter told Big League Politics he believes that it was likely a misdirection effort by Crowdstrike, a cybersecurity firm that worked for the DNC, and Warren Flood, an IT worker with links to the DNC and the Obama administration. He has referred to the Guccifer 2.0 persona as a “donkey in a bear costume.”
84 posted on 07/10/2017 1:15:22 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: StAnDeliver
Actually, Occam's Razor would favor the simplest hypothesis that fits all the facts: in this case, it would favor an internal leak rather than a Russian hack as the source of Wikileaks' information, unless there is evidence that does not fit this theory. There does seem to be evidence that the Russians were monitoring the DNC's server to keep track of Ukranian lobbyists working for the DNC (see Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire: Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.: "Almost as quickly as Chalupa’s efforts attracted the attention of the Ukrainian Embassy and Democrats, she also found herself the subject of some unwanted attention from overseas. . ."); but I cannot recall seeing any evidence connecting Russia to the Wikileaks leak, apart from CrowdStrike's uncorroborated claim, which should be excluded by Occam's Razor unless they can produce some evidence to support it, which they haven't done publicly so far.
85 posted on 07/10/2017 1:23:47 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora; henkster
"Actually, Occam's Razor would favor the simplest hypothesis that fits all the facts: in this case, it would favor an internal leak rather than a Russian hack as the source of Wikileaks' information, unless there is evidence that does not fit this theory."

Actually, that's exactly what I said. Rich may not have been the primary source within the DNC, but was the one left holding the bag. This is contextually driven by Henkster's observation that, paraphrasing, all things are possible. Thus my cite to Occam's Razor.

86 posted on 07/10/2017 1:58:27 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Prosecute the win. Run up the score.)
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To: Whenifhow

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87 posted on 07/10/2017 4:30:55 AM PDT by DrDude (Get rid of everything Obama or Clinton!)
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To: laxcoach
Seth Rich may have copied that data. But this reads like fiction, and probably is fiction.

If it looks like bullshit and smells like bullshit, it's bullshit.

Anyone who's take Computer Science 101 or Computer Security 101 laughs their ass off reading this thing. Totally unbelievable.

"The Forensicator?" Oh please!

88 posted on 07/10/2017 4:35:41 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: StAnDeliver

But that’s postulating two sources when one will do, which is not an application of Occam’s Razor.


89 posted on 07/10/2017 9:12:51 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: All
What the new info suggests:

<><> the “NGP-VAN” files were copied by someone with access to a system connected to the DNC internal network,

<><> this had no bearing on the files submitted to WikiLeaks or to Seth Rich, and,

<><> definitively not remotely “hacked” from or by Russia.

90 posted on 07/10/2017 10:08:12 AM PDT by Liz
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To: rodguy911; seastay
Reported elsewhere: the Guccifer 2 files have meta tags that can be shown were originally English, but were deliberately changed into Russian to make it look as if the files went through a Russian computer.

The most plausible theory is these Guccifer 2 leaks not necessarily were damaging but were leaked on purpose by the DNC with fake Russian meta tags so as to use as evidence before a wire tap judge to tap Trump.

Whomever tried the translation from English to Russian screwed-up several times....... and this is how they were outed.

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Trace all of it back to the Obama paranoia---if Hillary lost, all of them would have big Big problems.

REFERENCE---Then-Pres Obama and his minions started developing the “Russian hacked the election” narrative to give them cover for their blatantly illegal spying on the Trump campaign....... Obama spying on Trump started a year earlier. This is the stuff of third-rate banana republics. Susan Rice, and all concerned, including BO, should be in prison right this minute. (hat tip Junk Silver)

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FROM ONE OF THE MANY EXPOSES---Seeking to retain his position as CIA director under Hillary, Obama-era Brennan at the CIA used phony foreign intel as a pretext for a multi-agency investigation into Trump.....that led the FBI to probe a computer server connected to Trump Tower and gave cover to Susan Rice's sifting operations....

Not only Brennan.... "Susan The Sifter" had a dog in this hunt......Hillary tapped her for Secy of State. One could conclude Comey also had his reasons .....to stay on as FBI director.

Mighty powerful incentives for anti-Trump shenanigans.

.......apparently there are records proving that Obama's CIA director, John Brennan, oversaw repeated spying on the phone calls of President Donald Trump and millions of other private American citizens. An audiotape just released by Federal Judge G. Murray Snow is part of a civil case........

91 posted on 07/10/2017 10:16:25 AM PDT by Liz
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To: GOPJ; Jane Long; MinuteGal; jsanders2001; V K Lee; HarleyLady27; stephenjohnbanker; ...
The most plausible theory is the Guccifer 2 leaks themselves were not necessarily damaging.....but were leaked on purpose by the DNC......using fake Russian meta tags so as to become evidence before a wire tap judge to get a shady FISA to tap Trump.

POINTS TO PONDER: The more you examine this outrage, the more you sense that then-DNC head Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D/W/S) is the culprit.......but she did not act alone.

Then-Pres Obama and his minions started developing the “Russian hacked the election” narrative to give them cover for their blatantly illegal spying on the Trump campaign....... Obama spying on Trump started a year earlier.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz is super-ambitious. D/W/S actually has a spreadsheet of "people who owe her"....people she did favors fo

D/W/S was especially keen on getting into the good graces of the half-caste Royal Idiot b/c it suited her crass self-serving ambitions.

Strangely enough, on the surface it seemed like the half/caste kept shrugging her off.....as she pursued him w/ a vengeance.

Distilling the info, one concludes, D/W/S was a willing "doer of tasks," but the Royal Idiot had to give the appearance that they were not connected.

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And so concludes another chapter from Obama's Third World banana republic.

92 posted on 07/10/2017 10:32:17 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

and still no mention if the Awans have a connection to this.


93 posted on 07/10/2017 10:40:59 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: stylin19a

The Paki spies had their own bailiwick....tasked by Muslim Pakistan for specific info.

But I’m positively sure Obama approved of all of it....and Little Debbie provided the hands-on facilitation.


94 posted on 07/10/2017 11:03:55 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
I contend the GOPe (lord McCain/Romney/Bush) were the originators of all these lies against Trump and by extension his campaign. The ‘neocon’ contingent are just as dirty as the in your face lying liberals.
95 posted on 07/10/2017 11:34:31 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

Can’t dispute the neocon/dirt argument.


96 posted on 07/10/2017 11:43:14 AM PDT by Liz
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To: old-ager; TigerClaws; Whenifhow; SunkenCiv; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; TigersEye; ...

Following the Youtube you linked a followon entry popped up with a nice summary of daths following the Clintons and other notes

Just gonna drop this in here ...Set Rich is mentioned.
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https://youtu.be/f0mXDZI5KL4

WATCH BEFORE REMOVED!!! WE FOUND IT! THIS Hillary Clinton & Bill Clinton
Last Days Watchmen News

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Last Days Watchmen News — WATCH BEFORE REMOVED!!! WE FOUND IT! THIS Hillary Clinton & Bill Clinton

Published on Dec 1, 2016

https://youtu.be/BmqHISAuups

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Regarding the youtube url just above’’

when looking for the Youtube go the following

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“WE FOUND IT! THIS Hillary C...” The YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement.

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Sorry about that.


97 posted on 07/10/2017 12:17:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: TigerClaws

FBI needs to get real and STOP acting like elites are treated differently under the law.

It’s disgusting.

For those who want a lighter moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut0TaegQ-kw


98 posted on 07/10/2017 12:22:35 PM PDT by GOPJ ( MSM Snowflakes: if you don't like President Trump's tweets don't read 'em.)
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To: Fedora
"Rich may not have been the primary source, but could have been left holding the bag. Occam's Razor."

"Left holding the bag" = dead

Rich is more likely - than any other explanation - dead because he was left holding the bag.

99 posted on 07/10/2017 12:56:00 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Prosecute the win. Run up the score.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

They call/bitch to the ACLU when the voter records are checked.


100 posted on 07/10/2017 1:20:52 PM PDT by Lumper20
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