Posted on 07/03/2017 2:00:45 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
Sally Jones - the former punk rocker who became the leading female recruitment officer for IS, married a now-dead jihadist and took her son to Raqqa - wants to come home to Britain, it has been claimed.
That is, at least, the view of 'Aisha', the wife of another immigrant to the so-called Islamic caliphate now under Kurdish guard in a refugee camp in Syria.
In an exclusive interview with Sky News, Aisha (her real name is being withheld) insisted that very few immigrants to the 'caliphate' wanted to join the war. And that includes Sally Jones.
Jones' British-born son is now about 12. He is believed to have been forced to execute prisoners.
"She was crying and wants to get back to Britain but ISIS is preventing her because she is now a military wife. She told me she wish to go to her country," Aisha said.
Aisha insisted she was not among the violent supporters of IS. But when I told her my adult daughter "has a boyfriend", she said: "If she was my daughter I would cut her throat."
Then added: "I'm only joking."
(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...
You seem to think everyone is the enemy. You seem to think every mideast kid goes to Isis training camps. The original hypotheticals did not say armed women and children. Did not say in training camps. Did not say in support of military operations. Just murder. Somehow I’m a dreamer by pointing out killing women and children for the hell of it is wrong. Sure. What could I have been thinking.
No.
Not everyone.
But with the Muslim culture, be advised that none of them are our friends.
And they do not see kindness as a strength, they view it as weakness to be taken advantage of.
“The original hypotheticals did not say armed women and children.”
You seem upset that your hypothetical was shown to be naive.
Sorry if I wounded some dream of yours, but those camps I linked you to?
They are fairly standard.
And if not camps, then they are learning such lovely things in madrassas.
I’m sure the majority of whoever agree with you. Really I am. I get it. No such thing as innocent. No such thing at all. And it’s only wrong if you lose. Understood.
We broke the spirit of Germany and Japan by laying waste with out mercy or discrimination until the will to fight was no more.
And it worked.
I said your right. Kill em all and you have obviously already sorted them out so I’m sure Jesus will smile.
I’m sorry that you have a rainbows and lollilop view of wars and waging war.
But your naivete will kill people at some point.
Now, if the meat shields clustered together to sing kumbaya with the bad guys, that’d be great.
“I said your right. Kill em all and you have obviously already sorted them out so I’m sure Jesus will smile.” Dam.
I would prefer not to leave someone in ignorance of what we are up against.
No matter how willfull.
You kill as many unarmed women and children as it takes for you to sleep at night. I am not scared of unarmed 4 year olds.
You're just saying that because the koran explicitly forbids being friends with any unbeliever.
You are still purposely missing the point.
Nice that you do that, willfully blind people do make great meat shields.
They become 18 year olds and then they will kill you and all of yours
It also forbids critical thinking, questioning almost anything and so on. I don’t think you understand what I have been saying. Under no circumstances would I intentionally kill an unarmed woman or child for being in the wrong place or related to the wrong person. Women or children who pick up arms don’t fit that category. Period. I understand what Islam is and I would rather convert them than kill them as long as they aren’t trying to kill us. Period. When I help troubled youth it is always with the knowledge they may do something to me. It is a risk I am willing to take and a responsibility I believe all prolifers share. To turn abortion around will require follow up not just signs and votes. It’s one thing to see it differently than I or interpret the Bible differently but to question my strength, patriotism or willingness to defend myself over this is too much. I’d like us to at least reach a gentleman’s understanding. I find no redeeming qualities in Islam but I have met some fantastic people that were once members of that cult.
I didn’t say that but it’s true. Also of note the Bible doesn’t forbid Christians from being friends with nonbelievers it says it’s a bad idea.
It (Koran) also forbids critical thinking, questioning almost anything and so on. I don’t think you understand what I have been saying. Under no circumstances would I intentionally kill an unarmed woman or child for being in the wrong place or related to the wrong person. Women or children who pick up arms don’t fit that category. Period. I understand what Islam is and I would rather convert them than kill them as long as they aren’t trying to kill us. Period. When I help troubled youth it is always with the knowledge they may do something to me. It is a risk I am willing to take and a responsibility I believe all prolifers share. To turn abortion around will require follow up not just signs and votes. It’s one thing to see it differently than I or interpret the Bible differently but to question my strength, patriotism or willingness to defend myself over this is too much. I’d like us to at least reach a gentleman’s understanding. I find no redeeming qualities in Islam but I have met some fantastic people that were once members of that cult
No one is killing me or mine. Unarmed women and children don’t kill so much and you have confused me as a passivst.
Kuran forbids playing chess, it forbids being friends with non Muslims.
It commands them to kill.
Period.
You do not understand.
Those “woman and children” you bleed your heart for?
They’re taught to kill you.
They see your concern as weakness.
You cannot compare troubled youth here with your from their culture.
They are not in any way comparable.
They do not think like you, do not hold the same values as you.
Indeed, many of those values are grounds for your death under Islam.
Not all of them. There are a lot of different sects in islam. I think we could save a great number. The Coptics prove the area is more than capable of producing good people. The Kurds are muslim and communist. The yazidies aren’t violent either. I wonder what percentage of isis wives are enslaved. I’d bet more than not. I believe most muslims would leave the faith if only shown a better path. I think the middle east is almost a zoo with no fence. Except the one around the oasis pavilion we all call Israel. I’m not saying don’t go to war. I’m not saying anything other than killing unarmed women and children for all the fore stated reasons is wrong. Ask the soldiers that had to kill an armed child how bad it sucks. You wouldn’t want that guilt. No sane person would. No Christian would anyway. Hell I’m just a part time Christian, small town pizza lawyer with a google university degree. And you also keep comparing ww2 to this. We aren’t nuking, fire bombing or D Daying anyone. I’ll call it a war when we are fighting like we mean it.
A statistically insignificant number.
Did we concern ourselves with any of that during our conflict in Europe during WWII?
No.
Nor should we.
War fought without breaking the will of the people to continue pursuing war is a war fought to lose.
Oh yeah, you hold these fantasies about how war is waged.
Here’s an idea. I read where China has too many men not enough wives apparently by far. Dump islam, marry a Chinese guy with a job and no goats in the house. Free college too. Boom far less kids in islam and far less familieless military age Chinese men who might find Jesus in the Chinese Catholic Church instead thus brining about change there. Who knows. Until the big man says kill em all I will not. I mean these all. Not all the quoted people to follow this post. Save them (the quotes and the innocent.) Please.
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