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Stephen Hawking fears Trump could ‘push Earth over the brink’ and start chain reaction which...
The Sun ^ | 3rd July 2017 | Jasper Hamill

Posted on 07/03/2017 9:09:23 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: huldah1776
since this guy really is a genius, what is his motive for lying

Not that I have any particular insight, but he may be telling what he thinks is the truth.

Lots of people make the mistake of thinking that if they're intelligent in one area, then that confers intelligence in others.

Look at celebrities. You can be thoroughly entertained by any number of Hollywood weirdoes. Unfortunately, they think that their ability to act/sing/dance magically confers wisdom in all other realms, and more unfortunately, the MSM will stand there and give them a bully pulpit to preach to people.

101 posted on 07/03/2017 10:25:40 AM PDT by wbill
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To: NobleFree
He did some important scientific work decades ago. Then he decided he'd rather be a celebrity.

Important to whom? When?
Hasn't benefited my life, or that of my family, my community, city, state or country in any measurable way whatsoever.

Nor our collective health and safety as a species.

I repeat the question...
Important how?

102 posted on 07/03/2017 10:29:41 AM PDT by publius911 (Less Tweets More Golf! it works!!!)
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To: boycott
They have no clue what that man is saying. I don’t believe he does either.

If that makes this thing a historically notable scientist, then I could say the exact same thing about any batshit crazy muslim ayatollah, too!
Either in the original or "translated," not a word, not a concrete, useful or inspiring human idea...

103 posted on 07/03/2017 10:36:10 AM PDT by publius911 (Less Tweets More Golf! it works!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Beeb should be ashamed of themselves for taking advantage of this unfortunate man in this way. Hawkings today is little more than a mascot, seeking approval.

Shameful.


104 posted on 07/03/2017 10:37:16 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
hawkins is a mean little jealous two bit baby murdering slug.

You can't possibly mean "jealous;" envious? most certainly! and if he can't be that, he can just insist on being a nuisance...

105 posted on 07/03/2017 10:42:46 AM PDT by publius911 (Less Tweets More Golf! it works!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s sad how far one drifts from reality when one lives only inside their own head.

Many such cases!


106 posted on 07/03/2017 10:44:03 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Hawking doesn't look so good.


107 posted on 07/03/2017 10:46:18 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Baizuo" A derogatory term the Chinese are using to describe America's naive "White Left")
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To: Repeal 16-17
Hyperbole much? Stick to physics Hawking.

I have never seen or heard of any contribution of his in practical physics.

Theoretical physics may be make-busy work suitable only for those literally unable to do anything else.

108 posted on 07/03/2017 10:53:53 AM PDT by publius911 (Less Tweets More Golf! it works!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Trump’s action could push the Earth over the brink, to become like Venus, with a temperature of two hundred and fifty degrees, and raining sulphuric acid,” he told the BBC.

What is the average temperature on Venus?

The average temperature on Venus is 864 degrees Fahrenheit (462 degrees Celsius). Temperature changes slightly traveling through the atmosphere, growing cooler farther away from the surface. Lead would melt on the surface of the planet, where the temperature is around 872 F (467 C)
Reference: www.space.com/18526-venus-temperature.html

109 posted on 07/03/2017 10:58:41 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
When these guys give up their cars, planes, air conditioned mansions, and quit using all modern technological conveniences, then I might take them a bit more seriously.

Many of us actually dislike milk and apples. I dislike them myself. Our sole object in taking these things is to preserve our health. Milk and apples (this has been proved by Science, comrades) contain substances absolutely necessary to the well-being of a pig. We pigs are brainworkers. The whole management and organisation of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink the milk and eat those apples.” ― George Orwell, Animal Farm

110 posted on 07/03/2017 11:02:18 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: raybbr

The old “entropy” non-argument argument, eh?


111 posted on 07/03/2017 11:08:52 AM PDT by publius911 (Less Tweets More Golf! it works!!!)
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To: publius911
Theoretical physics may be make-busy work suitable only for those literally unable to do anything else.

And so-called academics are people who can't actually DO anything useful, so they pontificate a lot.

112 posted on 07/03/2017 11:11:28 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: publius911

Yeah, entropy is real. How do you renew energy once it’s been converted and dissipated?


113 posted on 07/03/2017 11:29:26 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Fester Chugabrew

If Hawking buys the man made globull warming con he is not as smart as he or his fans think he is.


114 posted on 07/03/2017 11:31:59 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have generally liked Mr Hawking’s work and I have read a couple of his books and a few of his papers. In fact this statement to me seems to conflict with some of his earlier stuff in physics and cosmology.

I have a interest in understanding Venus. First because back in the 50’s Robert Heinlein published,’Between Planets’,one of his teen science fiction stories (I have read almost all his work). This story was obviously before we knew anything about Venus. I wanted to go to Venus, ‘Have Spacesuit Will Travel’.

It was not until the Russian Venus probes of the 70’s that we learned anything about Venus at all. Now I have accumulated many things on Venus and the conclusion that many, including myself, are coming to. Is that Venus was never habitable like earth and is not the result of a run-away greenhouse effect.

In fact one guy I read stated that if Venus ever had surface water, it was way back in the beginning, when the sun emitted less energy then it does now and even then his conclusion was that possible surface water existed for about 10-100 million or so years not possible to really know.

The climate people want Venus to be a run away greenhouse, but it is not. It is just how the planet formed. Even reports dated 1999 and later, call it a greenhouse effect and this simply does not seem correct.

The surface temp is just under 900 degrees F and the surface pressure is 90 atmospheres. On the surface you would feel like you had 89 more of you on top of you. And the gravity is less but similar to earth.

Only about 30% of the sun’s energy makes it through the atmosphere, no where near enough to make the those kind of surface temperatures. It is becoming more accepted that Venus periodically is re-surfaced by vulcanization. And supported by mapping satellites that reveal the pock marking (craters) from meteors/asteroids is inconsistent with the rest of the observable planets, and it is believed that intense ‘dome’ vulcanization has been occurring because the planet does not have plates. The interior of Venus is significantly hotter than Earth, and remember we still do not know accurately the core temperature of Earth, it was recently revised upward (2013) by 1,000 degrees centigrade and just this year the mantle was moved upward by almost 100 degrees centigrade. Also so called climate scientists ignore this.

In conclusion the Earth is not Venus, and Venus was never Earth like. Sure we are going to heat up and the sun is going to expand and eventually the Earth is going away. However it is not going to be caused by man made climate change bs. It should also be noted that many others things are predicated to happen to our solar system long before the sun expands. Other solar systems passing through in a million years or so. Andromeda colliding in around 2 billion years or so. Or we could be taken out by any unseen rock.

Our newest telescopes have revealed as many rocks in Jupiter’s orbit as there are in the asteroid belt. Both of these places number in the millions, mostly small rocks, relative. However both places do have many rocks big enough to be potential planet killers.

So in conclusion I am for forgetting all about this man-made climate change bullshit (which is not real by the way, I probably have over 75% of the materials published on the topic if not more). We need to be investing whatever we can on making humanity ‘space worthy’. Even Mr Hawking admits that we will probably be taken out, before we take ourselves out, unless of course by its war.


115 posted on 07/03/2017 11:36:56 AM PDT by honurider (no one is more indoctrinated then the indoctrinator)
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To: publius911
Hasn't benefited my life, or that of my family, my community, city, state or country in any measurable way whatsoever.

Isaac Newton's law of gravitation failed that test for centuries - but now it's indispensable to putting satellites in stable, useful orbits. (Please tell me you understand how satellites benefit us.)

And then there's understanding the marvels of God's creation for their own sake.

116 posted on 07/03/2017 12:58:19 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: wbill

I hate statistics and this guy would be able to see the faulty science in “weather stats.”

Unfortunately, he isn’t smart enough to know that the annihilation of billions will be from the consequences of their own moral depravity and free will choices.


117 posted on 07/03/2017 1:07:23 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: NobleFree

As did George Boyle’s “Laws of Thought”, mostly a mathematical curiosity somewhat useful for philosophers & pure mathematicians. Until someone realized it would model switching circuits and networks for telephones and called it Boolean Algebra. Then it became useful for modeling/designing integrated circuits and the path led to whatever your pounding on to complain about Hawking’s work.

There are lots of examples where something that was developed from a completely theoretical standpoint that later had practical uses. Theory to direct application or the math used to develop the theory can be applied elsewhere. Example “String Theory” may fail as Grand Unification Theory but people are applying parts to understand surfaces & boundaries. This has huge uses in materials science & the engineering of new materials.


118 posted on 07/03/2017 1:22:33 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily; publius911
I think you must have meant to address this to publius911; far from "complaining about Hawking’s work" I described it as "important." (Other than that, good post!)

As did George Boyle’s “Laws of Thought”, mostly a mathematical curiosity somewhat useful for philosophers & pure mathematicians. Until someone realized it would model switching circuits and networks for telephones and called it Boolean Algebra. Then it became useful for modeling/designing integrated circuits and the path led to whatever your pounding on to complain about Hawking’s work.

There are lots of examples where something that was developed from a completely theoretical standpoint that later had practical uses. Theory to direct application or the math used to develop the theory can be applied elsewhere. Example “String Theory” may fail as Grand Unification Theory but people are applying parts to understand surfaces & boundaries. This has huge uses in materials science & the engineering of new materials.

119 posted on 07/03/2017 1:32:33 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Whoops!
sorry!


120 posted on 07/03/2017 1:35:09 PM PDT by Reily
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