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Great Britain has been Reducing and Disarming the Police
ammoland ^ | 27 June, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/02/2017 1:45:06 PM PDT by marktwain

Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- In a recent article in The Guardian, it was reported that police chiefs in England and Wales are considering offering the possibility of being armed with a handgun to all frontline officers.

From theguardian.com:

Police chiefs will consider the possibility of offering a gun to every frontline police officer in England and Wales, to counter the threat of a marauding terrorist attack, the Guardian has learned.

A discussion paper on the subject has been drawn up for the next meeting of the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC), which wants to look at how to boost armed police numbers to deal with a crisis, following the atrocities in Manchester and London.

The paper is intended to start a debate on the issue among police leaders at the two-day meeting that starts on 12 July – although it is thought at this stage unlikely that any wider arming will be agreed upon. Routine arming is controversial within policing and many do not support it.

The chart in the Guardian gives us some numbers from the UK government. These are numbers that I have not seen elsewhere.

They tell us how many authorized firearms officers there are in England and Wales. Government sources were relied on for the total number of frontline officers. The total number of frontline officers has dropped by 11 percent from the high in 2010.

The peak number of operational frontline officers was 125,799 on 31 March, 2010. The number of authorized firearms officers is not as precise. It was measured from the chart. If a reader is able to find the government documents that the Guardian references for authorized firearms

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; britain; england; guns; police; uk; ukjihad; ukpolice
There are very few armed police in England and Wales. The numbers have been decreasing for years.
1 posted on 07/02/2017 1:45:07 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Reductio ad absurdum


2 posted on 07/02/2017 1:45:50 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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To: marktwain

OKAY THIS CAN *ONLY* BE A COORDINATED EFFORT FROM THE TOP DOWN.

THE MUZSLIMES HAVE CONTROL OF THE UPPER ECHELON


3 posted on 07/02/2017 1:49:10 PM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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To: marktwain

Britain is a country that has already drank the kool aid of national suicide. It is taking effect right in front of our eyes.


4 posted on 07/02/2017 1:57:39 PM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: marktwain

This will make a Muslim takeover much easier and less bloody for the muzzies .


5 posted on 07/02/2017 2:01:06 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 ()-: the left has become a black hole in space and time :-()
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To: Lionheartusa1

Hey, if it saves some moose limbs............... Oh.......


6 posted on 07/02/2017 2:04:28 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: marktwain

One of the SCARIEST things that I read about the coming civil wars in Western Europe (and there’s plenty of scary things) is that there are very, very, few well-armed soldiers, militia, and police, ready to fight. In fact, once the Muslims reach critical mass and have a few decent weapons, they may well just walk into Buckingham Palace and that will be the end of 1000 years of British freedom.

It could all end that fast. Very scary, and this article certainly doesn’t help, as New York City has more armed cops at Times Square on New Year’s Eve as Britain has in their entire country.


7 posted on 07/02/2017 2:09:10 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: BobL

Well... there is NATO, and the organization is supposed to be a mutual defense pact.

The problem is that a takeover would be labeled an “internal struggle”.


8 posted on 07/02/2017 2:14:56 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: BobL

They could then climb aboard a Vanguard sub, and goodbye Boston, New York, Baltimore/Washington, Philadelphia, Atlanta and Miami! Islamic takeover of Britain could literally be the end!!!!


9 posted on 07/02/2017 2:31:38 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: marktwain

Around 1994 I met a British cop at a Summer retreat in the North Carolina Mountains.

He was an interesting fellow and surprisingly to me, pretty conservative. He also was a lay preacher.

One thing he told me was that he was armed but kept it concealed. I am pretty sure he said a Walther PP in 7.62. He did admit that most were not armed.


10 posted on 07/02/2017 2:36:56 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Mr. K

Good point.


11 posted on 07/02/2017 2:39:37 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: BobL

Britain needs to follow the example of the Czech Republic.


12 posted on 07/02/2017 2:42:12 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Frank_2001

Trump needs to treat Britain as a strategic asset and do what the USA must do for preventive self-defense.


13 posted on 07/02/2017 2:43:33 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: marktwain

Tony Dawson, Police Officer at Metropolitan Police Service (1984-present)
Answered 3w ago

I have over 30 years policing experience in London. I have commanded firearms operations and respect the skills and commitment of firearms officers. However, I would not wish to carry a firearm myself, for a combination of moral and practical reasons. In terms of the question posed, I would resign rather than being forced to choose any particular firearm.

But even more interesting was this:

[...] a staggering 56% claimed they would resign from the force rather than accept an order to carry a firearm


14 posted on 07/02/2017 3:35:36 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: marktwain

Pathetic Brits.


15 posted on 07/02/2017 5:30:33 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Chode

That attitude makes it easy for the muslims to kill them.


16 posted on 07/02/2017 5:36:41 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound
100% Ungland. feh...
17 posted on 07/02/2017 6:15:03 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: Chode

Simply WOW!


18 posted on 07/03/2017 3:21:22 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Fascism and socialism are cousins. They both disarm their citizens.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

at this point they get what they deserve, screw-em all...


19 posted on 07/03/2017 4:03:37 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: minnesota_bound

I think it’s time to take out the Great in Great Britain!


20 posted on 07/03/2017 4:16:07 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God did help the Republic, can we keep it.)
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