(Mississippi SoS) Hosemann (R) on Trump voter ID request: ‘Go jump in the Gulf’

Mississippi Today ^ | 01 July 2017 | Adam Ganucheau

[BobL]

“Based upon further information, I have to adjust my thinking here.”

This is the INTERNET, pal, you’re not supposed to have an open mind. You’re supposed to call everyone an IDIOT if they say something that conflicts with what you think.

(LOL, I always admire people with an open mind)

[BobL]

“Voter fraud is widespread through out the nation. No more “requests”, time to empanel a grand jury and issue fed subpoenas.”

Agree, but it does make sense to try to first shake loose the ones that are the worst - the ones that don’t comply. Makes it easier to deal with judges that may be open to both sides.

[Trentamj]

Going back to my days sitting in my Con Law class, I recall that even though the States are constitutionally-mandated to conduct all Federal elections, the Supreme Court has LONG-LONG recognized a legitimate Federal Government interest, in both Congressional and (by extension) President elections. That's why the Voting Rights Act didn't get immediately overturned (as it should have), and that (unfortunately) is why both Obama and Trump are on firm constitutional ground precedent-wise - like it or not. What has NOT happened is any Supreme Court case which defines the LIMIT of Federal interest in Federal Government-related elections which any of these US States can cite. So, as things stand, the US States are in charge, while the Fed runs things, with only a sense of Constitutional decorum to limit it. (Please don't mention the Tenth Amendment because its force died the exact moment the ink that it was first written in dried.)

[jeffc]

I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections?

My thoughts, too. Really, these should just be about putting pressure on the States to fix their voter rolls. But the Feds have no right or power to request such - it isn't like opposing a poll tax or similar....

[hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998]

Ohh that is going to leave a mark. HEH HEH

[SoFloFreeper]

hold on.

i empathize with both sides here. there is a fraud problem that needs to be handled.

but the Constitution does give the states the power to handle their own elections.

the Civil Rights movement somehow got the Feds deeply involved in the southern state’s electoral process, and while it certainly helped make sure people were not denied the right to vote, it has become a problem making sure the feds don’t become overtly involved in a state’s process.

we should tread carefully.

a compromise of some sort ought to be sought—or, perhaps, Hosemann is misunderstanding what is a benign request. He ought to want to be certain there is no fraud in the process.

I am just very concerned when the federal government get involved in what is a state matter.

Hope this makes sense.

[SpaceBar]

Just turn off Mississippi’s EBT cards, and in 72 hours it will be an apocalyptic nightmare and they will overnight priority mail Trump everything he wants.

[fieldmarshaldj]

There was considerable collusion in Mississippi between the corrupt Establishment RINOs (led by Haley Barbour) and the Democrats, centering on the despicable 2014 Senate primary race between Thad the Barnyard Cad Cochran and Chris McDaniel. They had large numbers of Democrats illegally flood the GOP primary runoff to install Cochran. The Feds taking a look at this would expose the corruption and collusion, and Hosemann appears to be going the extra mile to protect the morally bankrupt Barbourcrats in Mississippi.

[PapaBear3625]

I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections? Its so confusing being a conservative sometimes....

Protecting against election fraud is a listed function of the federal government. Constitution Article IV, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

How does the federal government act to "guarantee ... a Republican Form of Government"? By vigorously investigating and punishing any form of vote fraud, or any attempt by state governments to not abide by the will of their citizens.

Note also "and shall protect each of them against Invasion" : what is happening with our borders, if not invasion?

[VideoDoctor]

I’ll give 2 to 1 odds that Trump hands this weeny his a$$.

[okie 54]

Has the Senate to request the information and then send in the FEDS

[Chgogal]

Name, address, DOB and Social Security Numbers = ID fraud.

As far as I am concerned, this is very confidential information. : (

[itsahoot]

I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections?

The law requires them to interfere with Federal elections. Custom requires the democrats to steal every vote they can.

I wonder some times how any sane person can think that any elections today are any more honest than a faro wheel in the old West.

[justa-hairyape]

Sounds like he just threatened the Presidents life.

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

National voter ID(As much as I would hate that) and an end to early voting.

[arthurus]

I am not keen on national voter ID and firmly believe that voting should be in person on voting day. I don't think there should even be absentee voting. Voting should be by paper ballot with uniform (within each state) positive ID.

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

I like that

[little jeremiah]

Well said. I remember articles from a few (couple??) years ago about the primary with Daniel and Cochran.

Dirty rotten politics there.