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(Mississippi SoS) Hosemann (R) on Trump voter ID request: ‘Go jump in the Gulf’
Mississippi Today ^ | 01 July 2017 | Adam Ganucheau

Posted on 07/01/2017 8:36:37 AM PDT by Drew68

Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann will not comply with a request from President Donald Trump’s administration asking for detailed voter file information, including names, addresses, Social Security numbers and birthdates.

Hosemann, a Republican who did not endorse Trump during the presidential campaign, said his office has not yet received a letter from the administration. But he said if and when he does receive one, he will reject it outright. Hosemann is the one of the first Republican secretaries of state in the country to publicly reject the commission’s request, joining several Democratic colleagues in bucking the request.

“They can go jump in the Gulf of Mexico and Mississippi is a great state to launch from,” Hosemann said in a statement on Friday. “Mississippi residents should celebrate Independence Day and our state’s right to protect the privacy of our citizens by conducting our own electoral processes.”

All 50 secretaries of state received a request for the information in a letter this week from Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who serves as vice chairman for Trump’s new Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.

The letter seeks the information to “study the registration and voting processes used in federal elections” that may “undermine the American people’s confidence in the integrity of federal elections processes.”

The commission’s request asks for the full names of registered voters, their dates of birth, registered addresses, voting history, and the last four digits of their Social Security numbers – all dating back to 2006.

Kobach was fined $1,000 by a federal judge last week for making “patently misleading representations” about documents he took to a November meeting with Trump that relate to federal voting law.

He told the Kansas City Star on Thursday that the personal data would be hosted on a secure server run by the federal government, and that the request for Social Security numbers was meant to ensure one person isn’t registered more than once.

Hosemann successfully won a 2014 federal case on the argument that state voter file information should be kept private and not shared with the federal government. He has gone to great lengths since the November presidential election to assure the public that there was no voter fraud in the 2016 presidential election.

Twenty-two Mississippians sponsored by Texas-based True the Vote filed a federal lawsuit against Hosemann and the state of Mississippi in 2014, seeking birth dates of Mississippi’s 1.8 million registered voters. Many of those 22 plaintiffs were supporters of state Sen. Chris McDaniel, who narrowly lost the Republican primary runoff to U.S. Senator Thad Cochran. McDaniel earned more votes than Cochran in the primary.

In court and in public, Hosemann pushed back, calling the lawsuit “ill conceived, incoherent, misguided, poorly drafted, filed in the wrong court and probably politically motivated,” saying all voter file information was available to anyone after properly redacting the voter’s birth date and social security numbers.

“The Mississippi Legislature enacted a law to protect your birth date and social security number from public dissemination,” Hosemann said in a statement in July 2014. “This out-of-state company (True the Vote) wants your birth date or wants you, the taxpayer, to pay the redacting and copying for them. Your locally elected circuit clerks are following the law.”

The federal district court ruled in Hosemann’s favor, tossing the case and stating the state restrictions on providing voter identification did not violate the federal voting rights act.

Hosemann touted the smooth election process last fall.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: delberthosemann; ms2016; trump45; uniparty; voterfraud
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To: abigkahuna

“Based upon further information, I have to adjust my thinking here.”

This is the INTERNET, pal, you’re not supposed to have an open mind. You’re supposed to call everyone an IDIOT if they say something that conflicts with what you think.

(LOL, I always admire people with an open mind)


61 posted on 07/01/2017 10:28:06 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: kenmcg

“Voter fraud is widespread through out the nation. No more “requests”, time to empanel a grand jury and issue fed subpoenas.”

Agree, but it does make sense to try to first shake loose the ones that are the worst - the ones that don’t comply. Makes it easier to deal with judges that may be open to both sides.


62 posted on 07/01/2017 10:30:33 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: bigdaddy45
Going back to my days sitting in my Con Law class, I recall that even though the States are constitutionally-mandated to conduct all Federal elections, the Supreme Court has LONG-LONG recognized a legitimate Federal Government interest, in both Congressional and (by extension) President elections. That's why the Voting Rights Act didn't get immediately overturned (as it should have), and that (unfortunately) is why both Obama and Trump are on firm constitutional ground precedent-wise - like it or not. What has NOT happened is any Supreme Court case which defines the LIMIT of Federal interest in Federal Government-related elections which any of these US States can cite. So, as things stand, the US States are in charge, while the Fed runs things, with only a sense of Constitutional decorum to limit it. (Please don't mention the Tenth Amendment because its force died the exact moment the ink that it was first written in dried.)
63 posted on 07/01/2017 10:46:27 AM PDT by Trentamj
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To: bigdaddy45
I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections?

My thoughts, too. Really, these should just be about putting pressure on the States to fix their voter rolls. But the Feds have no right or power to request such - it isn't like opposing a poll tax or similar....

64 posted on 07/01/2017 10:48:13 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: AnalogReigns; bigdaddy45

Ohh that is going to leave a mark. HEH HEH


65 posted on 07/01/2017 11:03:20 AM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (------>VMFA 235- '69-'72 KMCAS <------- F4 PHANTOMS)
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To: Drew68

hold on.

i empathize with both sides here. there is a fraud problem that needs to be handled.

but the Constitution does give the states the power to handle their own elections.

the Civil Rights movement somehow got the Feds deeply involved in the southern state’s electoral process, and while it certainly helped make sure people were not denied the right to vote, it has become a problem making sure the feds don’t become overtly involved in a state’s process.

we should tread carefully.

a compromise of some sort ought to be sought—or, perhaps, Hosemann is misunderstanding what is a benign request. He ought to want to be certain there is no fraud in the process.

I am just very concerned when the federal government get involved in what is a state matter.

Hope this makes sense.


66 posted on 07/01/2017 11:10:05 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Drew68

Just turn off Mississippi’s EBT cards, and in 72 hours it will be an apocalyptic nightmare and they will overnight priority mail Trump everything he wants.


67 posted on 07/01/2017 11:16:33 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: arthurus

There was considerable collusion in Mississippi between the corrupt Establishment RINOs (led by Haley Barbour) and the Democrats, centering on the despicable 2014 Senate primary race between Thad the Barnyard Cad Cochran and Chris McDaniel. They had large numbers of Democrats illegally flood the GOP primary runoff to install Cochran. The Feds taking a look at this would expose the corruption and collusion, and Hosemann appears to be going the extra mile to protect the morally bankrupt Barbourcrats in Mississippi.


68 posted on 07/01/2017 11:25:47 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: bigdaddy45
I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections? Its so confusing being a conservative sometimes....

Protecting against election fraud is a listed function of the federal government. Constitution Article IV, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
How does the federal government act to "guarantee ... a Republican Form of Government"? By vigorously investigating and punishing any form of vote fraud, or any attempt by state governments to not abide by the will of their citizens.

Note also "and shall protect each of them against Invasion" : what is happening with our borders, if not invasion?

69 posted on 07/01/2017 11:40:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Drew68

I’ll give 2 to 1 odds that Trump hands this weeny his a$$.


70 posted on 07/01/2017 12:06:01 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Drew68

Has the Senate to request the information and then send in the FEDS


71 posted on 07/01/2017 12:38:24 PM PDT by okie 54
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To: Drew68
Name, address, DOB and Social Security Numbers = ID fraud.

As far as I am concerned, this is very confidential information. : (

72 posted on 07/01/2017 12:40:45 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: bigdaddy45
I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections?

The law requires them to interfere with Federal elections. Custom requires the democrats to steal every vote they can.

I wonder some times how any sane person can think that any elections today are any more honest than a faro wheel in the old West.

73 posted on 07/01/2017 2:12:34 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: Drew68

Sounds like he just threatened the Presidents life.


74 posted on 07/01/2017 3:08:52 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: arthurus

National voter ID(As much as I would hate that) and an end to early voting.


75 posted on 07/01/2017 8:28:33 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
I am not keen on national voter ID and firmly believe that voting should be in person on voting day. I don't think there should even be absentee voting. Voting should be by paper ballot with uniform (within each state) positive ID.
76 posted on 07/01/2017 8:42:36 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

I like that


77 posted on 07/01/2017 9:14:56 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: niteowl77

Well said. I remember articles from a few (couple??) years ago about the primary with Daniel and Cochran.

Dirty rotten politics there.


78 posted on 07/01/2017 9:30:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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