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Calif. Regulators Temporarily Block Assault Weapon Rules
cbs2la ^ | 06/26/2017

Posted on 06/28/2017 3:55:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The state’s Office of Administrative Law released a two-paragraph notice, without explanation, rejecting the proposed regulations submitted by the state Department of Justice in May.

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Chuck Michel, attorney for the National Rifle Association and its affiliated California Rifle & Pistol Association, said Becerra’s office inappropriately used a limited exemption in the assault weapons law to avoid public comment on the new regulations.

The Legislature allowed justice officials a limited exemption from the usual public comment for procedural regulations such as how gun owners would register their weapons, what forms would be needed and what fees would be charged.

But opponents say officials used that limited authority to avoid public hearings altogether on the substance of the regulations, such as what weapons or attachments would be covered.

Those proposed rules then were drawn too broadly and would classify too many firearms as assault weapons, opponents argued. Michel’s group counted more than 40 new assault weapons definitions.

“It seems like they’re trying to stretch the law to cover a lot of guns that shouldn’t be deemed to be assault weapons under the law,” Michel said.

Justice officials previously submitted similar proposed assault weapons regulations to the Office of Administrative Law in December but withdrew them in February. Michel said Becerra could appeal this week’s rejection by state regulators to Gov. Jerry Brown.

Brown signed six total bills last year to stiffen gun laws that are already among the strictest in the nation following high-profile mass shootings.

Judges in Sacramento and San Diego counties are considering whether to delay a law that goes into effect July 1 that requires gun owners to give up magazines holding more than 10 bullets.

(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; policestate
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1 posted on 06/28/2017 3:55:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

I believe currently Ruger 10/22’s are technically AW’s in Calif, now..?


2 posted on 06/28/2017 4:09:16 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

I believe that some Airsoft pellet guns are now illegal in California.


3 posted on 06/28/2017 4:12:06 PM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: MeganC
I believe that some Airsoft pellet guns are now illegal in California.

I'm sure we'll see CA's incidences of armed robbery, armed assault, murder, etc. slide right off the cliff to zero, real soon.

4 posted on 06/28/2017 4:14:18 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: MeganC

I found out just last week you can’t import into Calif those little boy “Cowboy pistol belt w/cap gun and badge” sets:

You can’t bring in any toy gun that is not colored orange or bright blue, or anything like that.

ALL Ebay sellers have that notation:

“I can’t shit this toy set to any buyer with an address in California —ILLEGAL”.

Wow.


5 posted on 06/28/2017 4:14:26 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: BenLurkin

Every gun crime committed, violates existing laws, and yet they want us to think new laws will make people more safe.

B.S.

In Los Angeles County I have less of a chance getting a gun permit to conceal carry for protection, than I have of winning the next Power Ball lottery.

If I’m every stopped by my car and shot dead, it will be in contradiction to what any sitting judge in the county would tell me, if I claimed that was what I needed to protect against.

There are a number of other scenarios just as realistic, that they would dismiss as well. And yet, each day/week (whichever most fitting), people are killed in just such ways.

I am being forced to be a willing victim.

That does not sit well with me.

If I have to go, I want a reasoned opportunity to say, “Not yet mother f-——r.”

And that’s my 2nd Amendment right damn it!


6 posted on 06/28/2017 4:15:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: gaijin

oh no..!

Not “sh*t”, oh Gawd.

I mean SELL..!!!

:(


7 posted on 06/28/2017 4:15:19 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Can’t have boys learning to be men by playing with toy guns...that might offend all the pussies who live in California.


8 posted on 06/28/2017 4:17:27 PM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: gaijin

I thought you meant “ship”.

But thank-you for the laugh!


9 posted on 06/28/2017 4:20:50 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: BenLurkin

maybe the AG realizes that the new “rules” are SO INCREDIBLY ILLEGAL/unconstitutional that the AG doesn’t want to have to go to court over them....


10 posted on 06/28/2017 4:29:43 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: BenLurkin

The only solution to the leftist crusade is a bloody war and burning cities to the ground.


11 posted on 06/28/2017 4:35:03 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (Democrat calls for kumbaya must be met with their blood on the ground)
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To: BenLurkin

“It seems like they’re trying to stretch the law to cover a lot of guns that shouldn’t be deemed to be assault weapons under the law”

Duh.


12 posted on 06/28/2017 4:35:09 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: gaijin

Your original wording was better :)


13 posted on 06/28/2017 5:01:05 PM PDT by whinecountry (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s been over 30 years since I bothered to travel through California and that is a shame. I remember beautiful country, wonderful landscaping, great weather and fantastic beaches with warm water. Our vacations in California were fun and very busy.

I would like to see some of that again, but I doubt I ever will...it just isn’t worth it.

As for their stupid gun laws, they can KMA. ALL of my firearms are assault weapons. In my younger years I hunted, so some of my guns were hunting guns....now they are only for protection and survival. If I am forced to use them for hunting, it won’t be for Bambi. ;>)


14 posted on 06/28/2017 5:06:52 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~)
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To: gaijin

As I read the CA DOJ website, it’s only centerfire semi-autos with at least one “ugly gun” characteristic, ie. a pistol grip, thumbhole stock, threaded barrel, flash suppressor, forward pistol grip or barrel shroud, but NOT a bayonet lug. So not a rimfire 22, or for that matter a stock Mini-14. Mags over 10 rounds are illegal for either, though a first offense is an infraction with a maximum 100 dollar fine.


15 posted on 06/28/2017 5:12:30 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: DoughtyOne

When I lived in CA I just carried anyway...figured with the crowded jails/clean record/first offense it’d get plead down to a misdemeanor anyway if I got caught. Always drove the speed limit and made sure all my lights worked...no cracked windshield and the like.


16 posted on 06/28/2017 5:17:44 PM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: SirLurkedalot

I never have. In recent years, it’s become more of an issue with me. As I get ready to enter my 70s, I’m not as inclined to mix it up and take my chances like I used to be prepared to do.

When I go out, it isn’t to commit a crime. It isn’t to harm anyone. It’s to enjoy life.

As such, I try to get along with others and let them enjoy life too.

I try to stay within the laws even if I disagree with them.

I’m not willing to die for it.


17 posted on 06/28/2017 5:21:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: BenLurkin

Mark my words...Bacerra thinks that he has a path to the White House as a polished alternate to traditional white presidency because he is a shining star in the hispanic community. Watch out for this scumbag politician in the future....


18 posted on 06/28/2017 5:25:43 PM PDT by Stayfree (LIBERALISM & STUPIDITY ARE BOTH INCURABLE MENTAL DISEASES OFTEN FOUND TOGETHER!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I hear you; I’m only 45 and have zero inclination to mix it up with anybody. And I’m a big guy who knows how to fight. But odds are it’ll be multiple a-holes half my age so I’m just going to kill as many as possible, quickly. Of course, I live in TX now so my situation has changed dramatically.


19 posted on 06/28/2017 5:28:25 PM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: Hugin
...though a first offense is an infraction with a maximum 100 dollar fine.

Here's my down side thought. It would still be considered a crime involving a gun. That could open you up to losing all your gun rights. Then you're wide open to any guy with a high powered pellet gun, or even a screw-driver for that matter.

You can't win for losin'.

Further, if you're of a mind that you could be involved in a shooting with an idiot and all his buds, are you going to stick with a 7 shooter?

If you do break the 10 mag limit, then you're in breach of a second law, and one that expressly forbids the gun you were using. That's considered a serious crime in and of itself.

20 posted on 06/28/2017 5:29:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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