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California invested heavily in solar power.
Los Angeles Times ^ | June 22, 2017 | Ivan Penn

Posted on 06/22/2017 5:55:08 PM PDT by artichokegrower

On 14 days during March, Arizona utilities got a gift from California: free solar power.

Well, actually better than free. California produced so much solar power on those days that it paid Arizona to take excess electricity its residents weren’t using to avoid overloading its own power lines.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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No single entity is in charge of energy policy in California. This has led to a two-track approach that has created an ever-increasing glut of power and is proving costly for electricity users. Rates have risen faster here than in the rest of the U.S., and Californians now pay about 50% more than the national average.


What a scam!

1 posted on 06/22/2017 5:55:08 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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And...how’s that working out for the taxpayers in CA?

Meh - a whole lot of them have, ‘Stockholm Syndrome’ as it is...


2 posted on 06/22/2017 5:57:12 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: artichokegrower

You can bet that AZ utilities did not share that largess with their customers, who probably paid full price on their bills. At least, that would be the way it would work in Texas.


3 posted on 06/22/2017 5:58:25 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: artichokegrower

They’re a bit more than double what they are here in Tennessee. PG&E residential rate just over 23 cents per KWH. There’s a special rate of 13 cents for “special” customers.

It’s around 11 cents here total. And there are places that are cheaper.

If not for the federal government, it would probably be about 8 or 9 cents here. If not for the California government, it would probably be a lot closer to ours in California too, and no special rate for deadbeats and illegals (or whatever those people are that get a special deal).


4 posted on 06/22/2017 5:59:34 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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And here’s an article on recent blackouts because not enough electricity is being generated in CA to satisfy demand.

Guess maybe they should quit selling their excess solar. Ohhhh, riiiight!

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Power-Outage-Impacts-Thousands-Across-East-Bay-429652663.html


5 posted on 06/22/2017 6:07:32 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (It's not gun violence, it's thug violence)
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Shouldn’t a glut mean lower prices?


6 posted on 06/22/2017 6:08:47 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: artichokegrower

Electrical rates are economically gang banging those in CA.

Hard to believe these corrupt AHs in Sacramento haven’t been drug out of their offices yet.


7 posted on 06/22/2017 6:10:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: artichokegrower

Yet CA utilities issue penalties for excess use. Bastards.


8 posted on 06/22/2017 6:14:06 PM PDT by umgud
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To: DIRTYSECRET

No, they’re going up all over the state. They have to take more and more because the so-called leadership drove the state into a abyss during the past several decades. In November the state increases gas taxes nearly .15 per gallon.


9 posted on 06/22/2017 6:15:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: txrefugee
You can bet that AZ utilities did not share that largess with their customers, who probably paid full price on their bills

From the article:

"That’s a good deal for Arizona, which uses what it is paid by California to reduce its own customers’ electricity bills. "

10 posted on 06/22/2017 6:19:47 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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According to US DOE “More than one-fourth of California’s electricity supply comes from facilities outside the state” in 2016

https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=CA


11 posted on 06/22/2017 6:20:47 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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Yet this article says that many of California’s power plants are running at 1/3 of capacity because they have so much excess energy.


12 posted on 06/22/2017 6:25:21 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: artichokegrower

You don’t “overload” power lines by not consuming the available power.


13 posted on 06/22/2017 6:25:51 PM PDT by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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Yup:

California produced so much solar power on those days that it paid Arizona to take excess electricity its residents weren’t using to avoid overloading its own power lines.

So instead of writing a check, why didn’t they just disconnect the solar panels for a few hours? Reporters are worthless.


14 posted on 06/22/2017 6:33:05 PM PDT by Owen
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To: pissant
You don’t “overload” power lines by not consuming the available power.


You may if you are having to use those lines to ship excess power longer distances than usual.

Speaking for AZ, we'll take the power if you must give it away, but there is something lob-sided in CA if it comes to that...

15 posted on 06/22/2017 6:42:17 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: DIRTYSECRET

You would think so but they keep allowing PG&E to raise rates. I think they’re trying to force everyone to go solar.


16 posted on 06/22/2017 7:19:35 PM PDT by sheana
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To: artichokegrower

Lost power in So Cal at 1:00AM last night for 35 minutes. Cell Towers were up so I logged onto the Edison Website. Something like 30 outages and 3000 homes were down around So Cal.

Yes it is hot, but I expected better. More to come I suspect.


17 posted on 06/22/2017 7:20:05 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: artichokegrower

I find myself wondering how many billions of dollars the people of California were scammed out of to pay for “green energy”.


18 posted on 06/22/2017 7:34:09 PM PDT by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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100% chance this LA Slimes article is BS. Noway CA gets enough electricity to power their socialist state without coal fired plants.


19 posted on 06/22/2017 7:46:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: txrefugee

At my house in Arizona at the Colorado River, the electricity rates are 1/3 of my California rates. 8 cents KWH!!!


20 posted on 06/23/2017 6:50:08 AM PDT by eyeamok (Idle hands are the Devil's workshop)
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