Posted on 06/22/2017 11:50:36 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
I thought McConnell appointed Cruz to head the healthcare bill development.
So, how did Cruz let this one get out of committee, if he doesn’t like it????
FGS just leave it alone and let the Dems own Obamacare.
I think it is way too late for that. Oh, Obamacare can go down, but I think the blame will go to the Republicans no matter what they do now. Stupid idiots NEVER should have started with this. They should have began with JUDGES.....there are still over 100 judge vacancies all over the United States and only 10 names have been submitted. I wouldn’t have done a thing until every judge vacancy was filled. Beginning with Health care was stupid. Heck infrastructure would have been better as at least people could have seen work being done on roads and bridges and perhaps a new JFK airport.....what a waste of a Congress.
[[If anyone thinks the democrat’s will get the blame letting Obamacare fail your in for a rude awakening!]]
Exactly, they, the left, have their talking points all cued up for when it woudl fail- blaming republicans for ‘being mean’ and ‘wanting it to fail’, and ‘causing it to fail out of spite’
Liberals NEVER own anything- even when it is 100% on them
Thanks
Well, this Stupid Party Senate bill isn’t going to make things any better in terms of cost to you if you pay for your own policy.
The greedy medical system has more money to pay off the greedy and crooked politicans than you do so you and I are screwed.
For one day surgery a week an ortho makes in excess of $2,000,000 a year and all he does is piss and moan about how little money he makes.
Hospitals whine incessantly about how high costs are and how little they make and they erect Taj Mahal like facilities with abandon and little trouble at all.
The system is broken. It is a near pure MONOPOLY CRIMINAL enterprise.
What they need to do they won’t do. Not for you. You and I don’t have enough money like the medical system does to own the greedy crooked bastards.
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You have had some good things to contribute to FR without a doubt. But you are oddly oblivious to the concept of conservatism.
Cruz is going no where except where we conservative Texans put him.
He is one of the few conservatives in the Senate.
Anyone who knows anything about conservative and liberal ideology should be able to, with the smallest amount of effort, discover that there are less than a third of the Republicans in office in Washington who are conservative.
Cruz and the few other conservatives may not be perfect, but we are not going to get rid of them and keep the liberal Republicans.
Forget it!
It’s a non-starter.
Move on.
Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee have been consistently conservative on their voting records. They’re not perfect, but mostly conservative.
Ron Johnson, not so much. I don’t know his reasons for siding with the other three, but if any of our Senators decides to convert to conservatism, it will be a welcome change.
Yes, Cruz is your problem if you come from Texas, but all of America seen what his true colors were during the campaign...
And as I stated: I haven't vetted Rand Paul that much yet nor have I vetted Ron Johnson, but will be doing so...
I don't take other people's words as ‘etched in stone’ and just because they have an R by their name doesn't always that is what Conservatism is...John McCain comes to mind...
So if you don't mind, I will make up my own mind, and since I am allowed to voice my personal opinions on here, that is exactly what I will do...
The choice is between this bill which repeals the individual and business mandate and phases out the Medicaid expansion, or Obamacare, which the Pubs, as the party in power, now own. Doing nothing and siding with Schumer to kill this bill isn’t some act of noble principle, it obstructionism that helps the Democrats. Chuckie is quite pleased.
What a damn mess! I don’t see the part where it says:
The Affordable Care Act is here-by repealed with effect from January 1, 2017 and fully replaced by the American Health Care Reform and Competition Act of 2017.
The American Health Care Reform and Competition Act of 2017 will become effective immediately and simultaineously with signature of the Repeal of the Affordable Care Act. Poliicies issued under the ACA will remain in effect to January 1, 2018 or before in the event of policy holders canceling or replacing them of their own free will and convenience.
I am sorry, but ALL that need be done is REMOVE all the exemptees from the original bill.
President Trump should be able to do that with an EO BUT, I would imagine if that were possible or plausible, it would already have been done.
But if you make the Pols etal live by the rules they impose on us, there would be a different reaction and I don’t think many surprises as to who would jump on that ‘down with obamaScare’ movement
I’ve sent this to Imhoff and Senator Howdy Doody (Lankford).
Please vote against the Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017 H.R. 1628. Surely you and your collegues can do better than this damn mess. Maybe you have not read it and don’t know what is in it? I’m attaching a link for your convenience hoping you can put some portion of the effort in trying to understand what it says that I have.
https://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/SENATEHEALTHCARE.pdf
Why are you and your colegues not able to understand the true meaning of REPEAL and REPLACE of the Affordable Care Act? Is it too hard? President Trump campaigned on this promise. Why are the House and Senate Republicans ignoring the voice of the people who elected President Trump. Do you think you are smarter than us or are you listening to the will of a higher paying constituent?
The problem is not access to health care it is the cost of health care and we need competition including tearing down the excuses of the walls of trade across state lines and the MONOPOLIES that exist in health care that serve to drive costs up. The economy is being harvested by greedy medical care providers. It never should have become a for profit enterprise.
What a damn mess! I’ve been reading the bill and I don’t see the part where it says:
The Affordable Care Act is here-by repealed with effect from January 1, 2017 and fully replaced by the American Health Care Reform and Competition Act of 2017.
The American Health Care Reform and Competition Act of 2017 will become effective immediately and simultaineously with signature of the Repeal of the Affordable Care Act. Poliicies issued under the ACA will remain in effect to January 1, 2018 or before in the event of policy holders canceling or replacing them of their own free will and convenience.
I should not say what I think of the governmnet in general and Congress in particular and more specifically Republican members of Congress and the Senate since right now I am beyond my usual seething rage against all politicians. I am not a proud member of the Republican Party, what is justifiably nicknamed the Stupid Party.
“So if you don’t mind, I will make up my own mind, and since I am allowed to voice my personal opinions on here, that is exactly what I will do...”
Sure. You’re entitled to your opinions - even the ones that are stupid, wrong, and so stubbornly biased they can never be changed by logic, reason, or facts. But being that way would make you a liberal, not a conservative. And I think better of you than that. So I hope you will open your mind to conservative arguments on a website that is conservative.
Rather than vociferously opposing our few conservative Senators and threatening to support primarying them out, how about lending support to ridding the party of the Susan Collins type Republicans. She is also opposing this bill but is willing to support it if she can be sure Planned Parenthood still gets funding.
100% Dem opposition and 3 or 4 GOP defections doesn't give the Republican Party ownership of this mess.
Passage of this bill, however, will give them ownership. And this bill does nothing to stop the implosion of ObamaCare; it simply shifts the funding from taxes to deficit spending.
Nothing in this bill will put a check on costs, decrease people's massive deductibles, reduce their huge annual out-of-pockets maximums, or increase the number of providers they can choose from. And, failing that, next year the people will be pi$$ed off and vote accordingly.
In practical terms it does. The average voter, and swing voters in particular blame the party in power for whatever happens. They gave power to the Pubs, and they hold the party in power responsible for anything bad that happens. The Pubs can no longer blame anyone but themselves. That's political reality.
If 100% Dem opposition and 5% GOP defections give the Republican Party full ownership, then that is just a simple matter of PR incompetence.
Let the bill fail; the people will continue feeling the pain. Spin it the right way, and the Dems get the blame. GOP should pick up more House and Senate seats next year.
You got it. Greed.
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