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Federal Judge Rules Cross Violates Law and Must Be Removed
Townhall.com ^ | June 20, 2017 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 06/20/2017 6:43:07 AM PDT by Kaslin

Atheists across the fruited plain are rejoicing after a federal judge declared that a cross erected in a Florida park violated the law and must come down.

“I am aware that there is a lot of support in Pensacola to keep the cross as is, and I understand and I understand and respect that point of view,” U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson wrote in his ruling. “But, the law is the law.”

The lawsuit was filed in 2016 by the notorious Freedom From Religion Foundation and the American Humanist Association on behalf of four Pensacola citizens

The judge pointed out that park has hosted tens of thousands of people for roughly 75 years without causing anyone offense – until now.

“When a city park serving all citizens – nonreligious, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim and Christian – contains a towering Latin cross, this sends a message of exclusion to non-Christians, and a corresponding message to Christians that they are favored citizens,” said Annie Gaylor, the organization’s perpetually offended co-founder.

The original cross was erected in 1941 in Bayview Park. It was replaced with a 34-foot, white “Latin Cross” in 1969 by the Pensacola Jaycees.

Judge Vinson noted in his ruling the “Bayview Cross” is “part of the rich history of Pensacola and Bayview Park in particular.”

He said the cross had been the focal point for Memorial Day and Veteran’s Day services – not to mention Easter Sunrise services.

“However, after about 75 years, the Bayview Cross can no longer stand as a permanent fixture on city-owned property,” the Reagan-appointed judge ruled.

He directed the city of Pensacola to remove the cross within 30 days. He also ordered the city to pay the aggrieved plaintiffs one dollar in damages. That comes out to a quarter apiece.

The American Humanist Association celebrated the judge’s ruling.

“We are pleased that the Court struck down this cross as violative of the First Amendment,” attorney Monica Miller said in a statement. “The cross was totally unavoidable to park patrons, and to have citizens foot the bill for such a religion symbol is both unfair and unconstitutional.”

Judge Vinson based his ruling on a court case involving a similar cross that suffered the same fate in Rabun County, Georgia.

“If the cross under review in Rabun County violated the First Amendment and had to be removed, the cross here must suffer the same fate,” the judge wrote.

Oddly, Judge Vinson seemed rather reluctant to rule against the cross.

“The historical record indicates that the Founding Fathers did not intend for the Establishment Clause to ban crosses and religious symbols from public property,” he wrote. “Indeed, ‘the enlightened patriots who framed our constitution’…would have most likely found this lawsuit absurd. And if I were deciding this case on a blank slate, I would agree and grant the plaintiffs no relief. But, alas, that is not what we have here.”

As I wrote in my book, “The Deplorables Guide to Making America Great Again,” people of faith are facing unrelenting attacks from a ruthless bunch of godless atheists -- hell-bent on eradicating Christianity from the public.

Should Christian citizens be relegated to some sort of second-class citizenship? Should they be directed to keep their beliefs hidden inside the church house?

Will they demand that city leaders rename Los Angeles and San Francisco? Should The Ten Commandments be chiseled off the doors of the Supreme Court? Should references to God be sandblasted from our national monuments?

Just how far do the atheists intend to go in this cultural jihad on our Judeo-Christian values?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cross; lawsuit; pensacola; publicsquare; purge
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To: Kaslin

To the Judge, a hearty Bronx cheer. To the city, contact your local veterans group and biker clubs and ask if they will volunteer for guard duty.


61 posted on 06/20/2017 8:27:40 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: stylin19a

He’s saying that if he was to rule in accordance with the Constitution, as intended by those who gave it to us, he would rule in favor of keeping the cross in the park.


62 posted on 06/20/2017 8:31:27 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. Obama free since 1/20/17. PTL ~ Þ)
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To: allendale

Nope. Idiot intolerants like the Humanist Society would object to that also.

The same people who are offended by crosses have no problem with prayer rooms and Sharia Law for Muslims.

All of which should illustrate exactly where they are coming from here and its not a very good place.

Their objective is to destroy American culture and make us a globalist, atheist, socialist society.

The passage used to promote this idiocy is “Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion, or interfere with the free exercise thereof.”

Socialists and progressives in the Federal and Supreme Court have ignored the entirety of the passage, seized on solely the first, and proceeded to the illogical conclusion that anything with religious connotations constitutes an “establishment of religion” in order to promote their agenda.

SCOTUS should be forced to revisit that one and forced to redefine it.


63 posted on 06/20/2017 8:34:24 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP THAT POS PAUL RYAN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD)
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To: BykrBayb

I got that, you big goof. It’s my fault...my question was more rhetorical and mostly about his last part.
If he had any guts, he would rule the way he’s suppose to rule.


64 posted on 06/20/2017 8:40:11 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Ouderkirk

If the Christian religion may not act to worship in the public square, then the Christian ethos - caring for a fellow man - has no place in policy making - or guilt tripping Christian citizens to part with their wealth.

= = =

Nicely stated.

And what source will the libs use as their authority?

Ultimately the law and Constitution would be voided.


65 posted on 06/20/2017 8:48:56 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: DonkeyBonker

AND declare and admit that He is LORD!!! Just before He tells them: “away from Me because I NEVER KNEW YOU!!”


66 posted on 06/20/2017 8:54:55 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Believe or not, we R in the Last Days of human history. Jesus is coming back, & soon! RU saved?)
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To: stylin19a

I was just looking for a place to make that comment, and your post was convenient. It just seemed like you were thinking it, but wanted me to say it.
:)


67 posted on 06/20/2017 8:55:07 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. Obama free since 1/20/17. PTL ~ Þ)
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To: Kaslin

Hubby grew up in Pensacola. Wonder if he knows he’s been scarred for life. Maybe he could get reparations. Who do we sue? /s


68 posted on 06/20/2017 8:57:18 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (God be greater than the worries in my life, be stronger than the weakness in my mind, be magnified.)
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To: Kaslin
“I am aware that there is a lot of support in Pensacola to keep the cross as is, and I understand and I understand and respect that point of view,” U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson wrote in his ruling. “But, the law is the law.”

Satan inspired U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson wrote in his twisted, warped, and incorrect ruling that his version of the law is the law.

69 posted on 06/20/2017 9:08:19 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Kaslin

Make the judge “disappear”!


70 posted on 06/20/2017 9:19:26 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Kaslin

A Reagan Judge appointee

https://www.fjc.gov/history/judges/vinson-clyde-roger

Vinson, Clyde Roger
Born 1940 in Cadiz, KY

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Florida
Nominated by Ronald Reagan on September 9, 1983, to a seat vacated by Lynn C. Higby. Confirmed by the Senate on October 4, 1983, and received commission on October 5, 1983. Served as chief judge, 1997-2004. Assumed senior status on March 31, 2005.

Other Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, 2006-2013

Education:
U.S. Naval Academy, B.S., 1962
Vanderbilt University Law School, J.D., 1971

Professional Career:
U.S. Navy lieutenant, 1962-1968
Private practice, Pensacola, Florida, 1971-1983


71 posted on 06/20/2017 9:19:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: b4me

You may disagree with his decision and he too struggled with it. However based on precedence he is 100% in fact correct. The law is the law and thank god we have folks that remove emotion from their vinacular prior to rendering decisions.


72 posted on 06/20/2017 9:52:47 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: olezip

Remove emotion from your drivel and take this issue up with the folks you vote into office. Precedent has been set and until the hits Supremes or Congress writes a law allowing it then a judge cannot make laws as he goes.

Or can he because it favors us? Eh?


73 posted on 06/20/2017 9:55:44 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: allendale

Excellent point. Perhaps there’s time to make it happen.


74 posted on 06/20/2017 9:57:10 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: NormsRevenge

Cadiz, Ky is only a little over 38 miles from my house.


75 posted on 06/20/2017 10:01:00 AM PDT by Kaslin (The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: Kaslin

???? But the FBI can be sent to symposiums held by CAIR to learn Muslim sensitivity training?


76 posted on 06/20/2017 10:26:45 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: DiogenesLamp
done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,
77 posted on 06/20/2017 10:35:50 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: yuleeyahoo
Exactly. The Constitution itself asserts Christ is the "Lord" of this nation.
78 posted on 06/20/2017 11:19:00 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Jarhead9297
You may disagree with his decision and he too struggled with it. However based on precedence he is 100% in fact correct. The law is the law and thank god we have folks that remove emotion from their vinacular prior to rendering decisions.

Precedent is a fancy way of saying "tu quoque" should be the basis of our laws.

If the precedent was wrong, everyone who follows it also becomes wrong, and that is what we are facing today.

The precedent was wrong, as in incorrect. Therefore this latest ruling based on that incorrect precedent is also wrong.

79 posted on 06/20/2017 11:28:07 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Jarhead9297

“... The law is the law ...”
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Which law are we talking about?


80 posted on 06/20/2017 11:58:28 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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