HPG: Turkish army was dealt heavy blow at Çukurca border

ANF News ^ | Sunday, 18 Jun 2017, 12:46 | BEHDINAN

[Texas Fossil]

Turkey invades Kurdistan (Kurdish region in Iraq) and 30 Turkish soldiers are killed.

One casualty reported by opposing forces.

This is not the first such incursion recently by Turkey.

[jcon40]

Thx for the post

[Texas Fossil]

Thanks for your interest.

This is a serious situation for Turkey and for Kurds. (Both in Iraq and Syria)

The timing of this while the offensive in Raqqa is going on is not by chance.

[Texas Fossil]

Previous coverage article is here:

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3561733/posts?page=27

[Texas Fossil]

Kurd/Turkey Ping

[ClearCase_guy]

Turkish army does better when it slaughters unarmed civilians.

[Texas Fossil]

Yes, is a fact. And they don’t do nearly as well today as they did prior to eliminating 1/2 of the officer corp in a purge after the (fau) coup.

[Texas Fossil]

Absolutely.

It is clear that they are engaged with PKK. You can tell from the clothing.

[caww]

Erdogan needs to just back off and stop invading Kurdish territory period....and stop beheading people like his brother does for ISIS

[Texas Fossil]

Yep. But I doubt that is in character for Erdogan the Islamist Dictator of Turkey. Want to be head of the Neo Ottoman Empire.

[caww]

I will never understand why they let this beast into NATO.......our politicians and world leaders are beyond fools!

[Texas Fossil]

Guess they thought Turkey would eventually reform. They did not. They got more subtle about persecution and genocide (cultural and real).

In the beginning of my study of this, I had some sympathy for the Kemalists. Now, I have learned they are still doing the same thing, just not broadcasting it.

All those minorities living under it, Understand it Totally.

[huldah1776]

Who supplies their uniforms?

[Texas Fossil]

I’m sure they make them internally. Appears to be the same style baggy britches that were used in those mountains 100 years ago.

[caww]

......”Guess they thought Turkey would eventually reform. They did not. They got more subtle about persecution and genocide (cultural and real)”.....

Well I had to look up when and how....so here’s what apparently is how they got in....

Turkey’s strategic location boosted NATO’s leverage against the Soviet Union after the Second World War.
“NATO membership would guarantee, in essence, that Turkey would not become a Soviet ally. They’ve retained their membership since they joined NATO in February 1952

[arthurus]

Turkiye, our NATO "ally" is attacking our actual on-the-ground ally. Unless we proclaim how it is all to be on the ground in the ME then enforce it nothing will wind up beneficial to America. We either have to go all in or get out.

If we permit the reconstitution of the Ottoman Empire then worldwide Jihad will be given a structure and real military training. As we cannot cut off the resources that the West continually transfer to the Jihadists, the Jihad will become real extraterritorial conquest. Turkiye will begin to push back into the Balkans. This will take a couple of years to eventuate and by then Turkiye will have allies in Western European Moslem states.

[Terry L Smith]

As of right now, I have been considering the Turks nothing more than the diluted offsprings of Ottomans. So, any report of any dilution in the military population of Turkey, is a good thing.

[arthurus]

Erdogan is probably supporting ISIS by the back door and now with military actions. He has always seen ISIS as the agent for recreating the Caliphate and allowing ISIS to do that is a much safer way for Turkiye. IF ISIS were to be successful, Erdogan expects to absorb the ISIS entity into the Turkish Empire and install the Caliphate where it “belongs,” in Istanbul where it will become a traditional caliphate under the control of the modern iteration of the Sultan.

[arthurus]

Faux.

[arthurus]

Erdogan got into NATO as an inheritance. Turkiye was a good and useful ally and counterweight to the Soviets back in the day. Once the Soviet empire collapsed Istanbul was no longer necessary. The Soviet collapse allowed the conditions for the rise of Erdogan. We need to cut that ally loose. It is no longer an ally and we are not using NATO successfully to control Istanbul.-Writtn by the hand of an old Turkophile whose childhood was in Istanbul. The collapse of one empire facilitates the rise of another.