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London fire: 58 missing, presumed dead - police
BBC ^ | June 16, 2017

Posted on 06/17/2017 11:33:10 AM PDT by SMGFan

A total of 58 people are dead or missing, presumed dead following the devastating fire at Grenfell Tower in west London, police have said. Commander Stuart Cundy said that number "may increase". The BBC understands it could be around 70 people in total.

The recovery operation at the burnt-out block of flats has resumed and could take weeks, he said. Meanwhile, PM Theresa May admitted support for families in the "initial hours" was "not good enough". The statement came after Mrs May met some of the people made homeless by the fire and volunteer helpers in Downing Street.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: asbestos; deathtoll; fire; globalwarminghoax; greenbuildings; grenfelltower; london; nottinghill; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: SMGFan

The article has pictures of the burnt-out tower block.

The fire took out floor after floor, which shouldn’t happen.

Architects need to look over the plans.

I believe the British have coroner’s inquiries.


21 posted on 06/17/2017 1:23:08 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: CodeToad
“Where did you see the information about the inspectors being paid off?”

:At Geico you save 15%, inspectors get paid off, it’s what they do"

In other words, there's no actual report of any inspectors in connected to this fire in London getting paid off; only uninformed slander. Thanks, that's all I wanted to know.

22 posted on 06/17/2017 1:23:18 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: fidelis

“only uninformed slander. Thanks, that’s all I wanted to know. “

Union member? Act like one.

EVERYONE knows what criminals inspectors are. Everyone.


23 posted on 06/17/2017 1:25:11 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: All

The tower was in a Muslim dominated area.

What (or who) started this fire?


24 posted on 06/17/2017 1:28:51 PM PDT by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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To: SMGFan

Prayers offered up for those involved in this terrible tragedy.


25 posted on 06/17/2017 1:30:35 PM PDT by Ciexyz (I just changed my voter registration to non-affiliated. I'm still conservative & traditionalist.)
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To: CodeToad
"Union member? Act like one."

Nope, wrong again. I despise unions. Maybe you aren't as perceptive as you imagine yourself to be.

"EVERYONE knows what criminals inspectors are. Everyone."

LOL. You're awful fond of making broad, emotional generalizations about people without any facts to back them up. Are you sure you're not a Liberal?

26 posted on 06/17/2017 1:47:50 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: BunnySlippers

Wrap a building in fire and it WILL go inside.

The heat stress shatters the windows and the contents burn.


27 posted on 06/17/2017 1:58:08 PM PDT by null and void ( The Flat Earth Society claims they have members all around the globe!)
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To: SMGFan

Kensington is a very nice area of West London - highly doubtful the elites will allow these projects to be rebuilt, opportunity to get the muzzies and riffraff out.


28 posted on 06/17/2017 1:58:43 PM PDT by sheehan (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS.)
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To: proxy_user

Related - info
The aluminum clad PE PLASTIC resin foam core panels are flammable, unlike the FR (fire-resistant) mineral core panels.
Damn tragic.
Wonder how many other buildings are clad in the flammable panels?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3812802/shocking-video-shows-how-cladding-panels-similar-to-those-used-at-grenfell-tower-burst-into-flames-in-just-two-minutes-during-fire-test/


29 posted on 06/17/2017 2:09:07 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: fidelis

Inspectors not being paid off is news worthy not the other way around


30 posted on 06/17/2017 2:48:28 PM PDT by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: fidelis

I’d be amazed if inspectors had gotten into Grenfell. Sounds to me like they may not even have bothered.


31 posted on 06/17/2017 3:00:09 PM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: sheehan
It was a Somalia refugee have for the most part and the projects .
Check out the list of victims names. Don't know how it got zoned in that location .
32 posted on 06/17/2017 3:02:15 PM PDT by ncalburt (ll)
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To: ncalburt

Every local council, in this case Kensington, has to provide a number of properties in their area for the housing of those in need.
The area may have been a redevelopment already.


33 posted on 06/17/2017 3:30:01 PM PDT by moose07 (DMCS (Dit Me Cong San ) Forward to the glorious world of next Tuesday !)
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To: fidelis

Has anyone ever seen a fire spread like this?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4613250/Grenfell-Tower-report-not-public-YEARS.html

Excerpt: But the London fire service has said the report will not be made public until an inquest is complete - which could take years.

It takes years so the inspectors and politicians can skate responsibility. They hope this will all be swept away.


34 posted on 06/17/2017 3:54:38 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: SMGFan

Just curious - what were people expecting the prime minister of The U.K. To have done to fight this fire or reduce its immediate after effects?


35 posted on 06/17/2017 4:36:25 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: RayChuang88

Ditto the Great White Concert fire of 2003.


36 posted on 06/17/2017 4:39:29 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SMGFan

They had an inspection the SAt. just before the fire....but what too few news sites are failing to tell is how the tenants often put suitcases and storage items in the stairwells....took fire direction signs off the doors and also misused appliances....and disengaged the fire alarms..they were sited for these often but it didn’t stop them from doing it.

No matter how you look at this welfare..or in this case council buildings, generally do not have very responsible tenants and if foreigners as any of these were you have the problem of reading directions......

Either or any of the above...the loss of life still is a sorry thing to happen for the families that lived there...as well those who survived who lost all their goods.


37 posted on 06/17/2017 5:05:22 PM PDT by caww
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To: sagar

That’s because foreigners will always do class action suites....they know how the system works so no doubt they’ll all be looking for cash in this.


38 posted on 06/17/2017 5:06:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: Gay State Conservative

Interesting is the woman across the hall was woken by the guy whose apartment it started in....he told her there was a fire and she could see it as his door was ajar..and she noted his suitcase outside the door.

That’s not to say he started it...but whatever was happening there the thing went up very fast throughout the outside of the building.


39 posted on 06/17/2017 5:10:31 PM PDT by caww
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To: null and void

.....”less than three fatalities per floor. Remarkable”...

That’s what I was also thinking....one gal stayed in her apartment to film it .....she was in one of the top floors....people who were escaping kept telling her to leave but she kept filming and wouldn’t leave. There are others who wouldn’t leave as well, when they had the chance.

I have to say we had a bomb threat in a building I worked....I learned of this when I went in the building and saw dogs and police mulling around. When I was told what was going on I said why aren’t people leaving?...she said..”Because management hasn’t released us yet!”....Well I wasn’t waiting around and left the building right then.

Some people just don’t use their common sense.


40 posted on 06/17/2017 5:15:43 PM PDT by caww
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