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Court orders DHS to reinstate amnesty for Georgia Dreamer (reinstate Obama's DACA status)
Washington Times ^ | Stephen Dinan | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 06/13/2017 10:21:46 AM PDT by sickoflibs

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To: knarf
RE:”Somehow a dreamer that had been given amnesty (by SOME means) has lost it.”

I think the argument is that Obama wrote an order and the INS skipped over some of the conditions in the order.

Not that Trump cant issue his own, at least not yet. But he hasn't on DACA yet.

41 posted on 06/13/2017 11:44:51 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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To: moehoward

We will still be over 800,000 illegal aliens being given permission to stay by the end of the year.
Doing nothing is keeping the illegal program going and growing.
DACA must be ended.


42 posted on 06/13/2017 11:47:09 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: JohnyBoy

The Dream act is an end-run scam to provide all-out amnesty.


43 posted on 06/13/2017 11:47:50 AM PDT by glenduh
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To: sickoflibs

Judges have the power of a dictator, can rule every aspect of our lives.


44 posted on 06/13/2017 11:48:44 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: sickoflibs

The only people on earth not covered by America’s Constitutional rights are Christians born and currently residing in the United States.


45 posted on 06/13/2017 11:54:02 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: sickoflibs

DACA is NOT an Executive Order!

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2014.html

It is a product of Obama’s 2014 “Immigration Accountability Executive Action”

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2014/11/20/fact-sheet-immigration-accountability-executive-action


46 posted on 06/13/2017 12:00:13 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Ray76

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2012/06/15/remarks-president-immigration


47 posted on 06/13/2017 12:06:50 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Ray76

No, Democrats garnered enough votes to change the game and they did so by patience.


48 posted on 06/13/2017 12:08:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

This judge is taking the heat off of Trump for not rescinding DACA......


49 posted on 06/13/2017 12:25:03 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Ray76

>Republicans have been using that for years. It’s how we got here.

Your inability to wait 6 months will be the death of us.


50 posted on 06/13/2017 12:47:24 PM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: Lurkinanloomin

REPLACE DACA first needs a cool name.

Double Dream act is a cool name.

Then DEPORT them all, including all Soroses.


51 posted on 06/13/2017 12:54:01 PM PDT by TheNext (SLOW FUND Wall = Trump 2020 Trump Jr 2024 Eric 2032)
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To: sickoflibs
#3: " why is the government still approving MORE of them for DACA?"

The swamp has not been drained. Not winning. Sad!

52 posted on 06/13/2017 1:20:03 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: JohnyBoy

> erode public support against illegal immigration.

> Americans are very much against illegal immigration but for DACA.

Nonsense. All we have to do is enforce existing law.


53 posted on 06/13/2017 1:24:35 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: DoughtyOne

BONKERS = EVIL


54 posted on 06/13/2017 1:28:18 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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That too...

“:^)


55 posted on 06/13/2017 1:29:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Trump should have shut down new applications day one.

Aren’t you being overly optimistic with that 800k ?
Looks like 1.5M, give or take.


56 posted on 06/13/2017 1:34:05 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Comment: 1

Obama issues edict.

Trump and company cancel the edict.

Judge says Trump should follow policy, but makes no mention of Obama not following policy.

B O N K E R S

RESPONSE To: 1

Trump has not rescinded DACA.

RESPONSE to Response to: 1

Didn’t say he had.

This person is being jettisoned under his watch.

The court is denying his administration the right to do it.

Further Comments:

By using the imprecise terms, "Trump and company cancel the edict.", and "The court is denying his administration the right to do it.", I can see why it may have appeared to you I was claiming Trump had stricken down DACA.

That was not my intent.

The agency that is trying to deport this woman is operating under directives by this president, or that this president agrees with, which would be why he allowed them to remain viable.

Even though Trump has not officially stricken down DACA, it is still true that in some instances that is in effect the operational status in the field. Otherwise this person would not be under threat of deportation.

The judge has observed this situation, seems to agree with me, and has made a ruling that this is not appropriate.

While overly broad and not specific enough for folks this issue is important to, I believe my first comments were accurate, while somewhat clumsily stated.

I was not trying to evade your point. It may have seemed like it.

57 posted on 06/13/2017 1:45:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: DoughtyOne

This individual let her DACA status expire and the administration was well within their responsibility to remove her.
The judge is overstepping as badly as Obama did when he set up the illegal DACA program.


58 posted on 06/13/2017 1:52:28 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: moehoward

Aren’t you being overly optimistic with that 800k ?
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Yes, I probably grossly underestimated the real number.


59 posted on 06/13/2017 1:53:36 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Thank you for pointing out that point. I had not read that far.

Your point about the judge is correct on several points.

If she was covered by DACA, Trump would have had the right to reverse DACA.

Second, if she let DACA expire, this wasn’t even a close call at all.

Her not being under DACA, would void part of my comments concerning a new policy being implemented below the surface.

That would not have had to have been the case.

Your point is therefore more solid than previously thought.

There was not a surfaced underlying policy change.


60 posted on 06/13/2017 1:58:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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