Posted on 06/12/2017 6:26:13 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
White House counselor Kellyanne Conway said Saturday not everyone is college material while urging for workforce development courses to be made available at technical colleges.
Not everyone is college material, Conway told host Jeanine Pirro on Foxs Justice with Judge Jeanine. Not everyone has to graduate from a four year college with a mountain of debt and very few prospects.
Conway pointed to a trip President Trump and his daughter and special counselor Ivanka Trump will be making to Wisconsin for Workforce Development Week. There, the president will visit a technical college along with Gov. Scott Walker (R) and Secretary of Labor Alex Acosta.
Theyll be going there to talk at a technical college and really see whats going on there and get some best practices as Ivankas been doing for these roundtables and these listening sessions, Conway told Pirro.
This involvement in workforce development means that if people want a vocational educational technical educational skills certificate they should have access to that, she added.
Conway said skills-certificate programs that make people "employable" need to be valued in the U.S.
People are saying, Look, if you are in a skills-certificate program, you can graduate and be employable welders, carpenters, plumbers, hair dressers.' We need to value that. We need to value that in our country and Ivanka Trump and her father will be out there doing that," Conway said.
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No, it's nonsense.
I've seen too many highly schooled people who couldn't change a light bulb, or smell the coffee. The dearth of men on college campuses has nothing to do with a lack of intelligence...perhaps the reverse.
We use so little of our intelligence that, except for the low extremes, it's irrelevant.
Four years of sex and alcohol.
My high school had a guy whose job was to help kids apply for college. He made a similar statement...whoa did he get blowback.
Not so long ago, an IQ of 110 was considered the baseline for succeeding in college. That's less than 20% of the white population and 7% or 8% of blacks.For the rest, there is gender, wymyn, and queer studies.
Our oldest just graduated in Engineering and just started his first job today. Our other one, is going into a trade. He'll probably make more money that all of us.
My youngest went to college for a semester and found out that it just wasn’t for him. Not right now, anyway, maybe not ever.
He has since gotten his Class A CDL and is enjoying life, as driving fits his personalty quite well.
Absolutely true.
My daughter wisely chose vocational training. She never would have made it through four years of college.
Most universities already have a tech program. Virtually everyone who graduates with a B.S. in chemistry, biology or physics gets a job as a tech.
Also, the “automation” of significant numbers of manufacturing tools such as lathes, presses, mold injection, etc requires a fairly thorough grasp of algebra and geometry at a minimum and the ability to understand some fairly archaic programming skills. An auto mechanic requires some computer/electronic school and playing computer games does not impart those skills.
Too many of today's high school graduates can't read their own diploma or balance a check book.
I worked construction in Denver ..left in 2001
The whites were sending there kids to college
The Mexicans were getting there kids in the apprentice programs
Electricians, Plumbers, elevator workers the money trades
All very nice, but not the government’s business. Just get us out of the student loan business and let the private sector sort it out, thank you.
She’s right. One example...the construction industry relies heavily on trade workers. The millennials don’t want these jobs because they’ll get hot or may have to be exposed to adverse weather conditions.
Bew hew.
The older generation of tradesmen/people will retire....then what?
Our universities are full of students who have no business being there, particularly if funded by student loans. Starbucks really doesn’t need more college-trained baristas. They will amass debt they can’t repay and many will never have a self-sustaining job.
LOL....exactly! They get what they (WE) 'pay' for.....NOTHING!
Grrrrrrr.
I want the Taxpayer Accountability Bill to be passed.
I want a FULL accounting of EVERY tax dollar paid....whether it be to free college (who gets/and why), welfare, etc.
Electricians, plumbers, and in general all trade's apprentices have to work during the day and go to school at night to learn their trade. Most college kids probably would fail a course in the National Electrical Code.
The ASE certified technicians who work on your car have to pass a battery of grueling exams on the various subsystems of an automobile. The complexity of current braking systems alone on automobiles would be a graduate level course at university.,
Welders have to have extremely good vision, a steady hand an the ability to flawlessly repeat day after day their technique. You have to be as good at 4:30 pm as you are at 8:00 am. Your welding exams are tests to destruction, if your welds are bad, it will show in an unambiguous way. They don't grade welders "on a curve"
I've named a couple of trades, but in general it applies to all trades. Punctuality, respect for others, and a work ethic are requirements. You can't work at a trade a roll out of bed at the crack of noon. Show up late, disrespect others, you are fired. No discussion. No appeal.
Health care came about as a benefit that circumvented the wage and price controls implemented by the Truman administration after WWII in a vain attempt to control inflation. It evolved into an expected entitlement for most employees. The subsidization of health care of course raised the price beyond the average persons ability to pay. Econ 101.
I’d like to see the wailing and gnashing of teeth when the first large corporations band together and build their own private on site schools for the children of their work force with guarantees of employment to those who succeed.
That would throw a monkey wrench into the governmen/educational (chock the industrialists ) complex movement.
Opps - chock = choke!
Perhaps a better, and truthful, way of saying it is that college is not for everyone. People need to figure out what it is they want to do in life, and then determine whether they can earn a living doing it. If so, great. If not, that is what we call a hobby.
As a side note, many do very well in college, but come out with nothing marketable to show for it. English, History, Art History and the dreaded Psychology degrees are, for the most part, a waste of effort. These degrees do show that a person is capable of learning, but what is learned is pretty useless in the world.
I should know. My undergraduate degree was in French and Education. I taught school for 4 years, then decided I might like to actually earn a living. So back to grad school it was. I am now nearing retirement with a marketable, but deplorable to many, JD degree.
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