Posted on 06/09/2017 9:03:39 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
American aerospace giant Boeing and France's Dassault Aviation are among the four entities that have responded to he Indian Navys 'Request for Interest (RFI)' to provide 57 multi-role carrier borne fighters, industry sources said.
The other two are Sweden's SAAB and Rosoboronexport of Russia. While Boeing has pitched its F/A-18 Super Hornet, Dassault has briefed the navy on its Rafale. SAAB has offered the maritime variant of its Gripen single-engine fighter jet. Naval Chief Sunil Lanba confirmed the development. "We will examine the RFI and take it forward," he told this newspaper. The deal is valued over Rs 50,000 crore.
Sources say it is now mainly between Boeings FA-18 and Dassaults Rafale, as the navy would prefer a twin-engine aircraft against SAABs single-engine Gripen. While the navy did not specify a variant, there is a clear preference for a twin-engine model, a senior industry executive said.
As it had earlier done a deal with the Indian Air Force (IAF), Dassault is seen as having an upper hand. The government signed an $8.7-billion deal with France last year for 36 Rafale warplanes for the IAF. Dassault, defence ministry sources say, has argued it makes sense to equip IAF and navy with the same platform, for better logistics, maintenance and industrial support. "It would help in cost control like manpower training, pilot training, simulators and make it easier to get spare parts, sources said.
All the four companies refused to comment on queries sent to them.
Dassault with joint venture partner Reliance has a Make in India proposal already in place and envisages all 57 aircraft to be delivered from its facility at Mihan (near Nagpur), a company executive said on condition of anonymity.
The navy had on January 25 put out an RFI for the 57 fighter planes, giving manufacturers four months to respond. In the technical evaluation, the foreign companies had to answer queries on technical parameters, budgetary estimates, likely level of indigenisation, transfer of technology and schedule of deliveries after a contract is inked.
Super Hornet refuelling a Rafale
Rs 50,000 = approx. $7.7 billion
Can a Super Hornet take off from a ramp with a combat load?
Boeing should offer the F-32 that was beaten out by the F-35
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-32
That’s what Boeing said nearly a decade ago
I suppose it has enough thrust and wing loading/AOA ability. I’d rather do in in a SU27, though.
Super Hornet has great avionics, but it’s a dog performance wise. Not sure how it stacks up against the Rafale, but it is the worst performing 4th generation fighter in the world.
The Rafale’s delta canard configuration should safely give it the edge in kinematics.
#4 That airplane is how you say in Hindi? .... ugly!
Bribery is a way of life in india.
If Boeing does not play the game they will lose, no matter what is offered.
Tata runs the indian government when it comes to bribery.
Got to hire them (or their sponsored cronies) otherwise the game is over.
Bribery is a way of life in india.
If Boeing does not play the game they will lose, no matter what is offered.
Tata runs the indian government when it comes to bribery.
Got to hire them (or their sponsored cronies) otherwise the game is over.
Really?
How so?
Is this something you personally flew and assessed?
Guess that’s why the P-8 won a contract in India against European offerings, the Apache against the Russian MI-28 and KA-52, CH-47 against the MI-26 ...
That is true. . .Boeing played the bribery game very well.
Have to when in a corrupt country.
Export licenses obtained for previously limited processes. Heck, Boeing even got special exemption’s to move Boeing’s travel voucher tracking to india. . .meaning every travel voucher was routed through india and india was then in a position to track Boeing’s world-wide marketing and sales efforts. This was a hard requirement for india. No access to Boeing travel vouchers, no contract.
Knew quite well the guy at Long Beach that led the Boeing C-17 effort in India.
Very interesting the amount of bribery necessary to just get a meeting, let alone win the contract.
Source-selection took many years even though the choice was clear. . .india would not move forward until tata and the indian government got their share.
That is true. . .Boeing played the bribery game very well.
Have to when in a corrupt country.
Export licenses obtained for previously limited processes. Heck, Boeing even got special exemption’s to move Boeing’s travel voucher tracking to india. . .meaning every travel voucher was routed through india and india was then in a position to track Boeing’s world-wide marketing and sales efforts. This was a hard requirement for india. No access to Boeing travel vouchers, no contract.
Knew quite well the guy at Long Beach that led the Boeing C-17 effort in India.
Very interesting the amount of bribery necessary to just get a meeting, let alone win the contract.
Source-selection took many years even though the choice was clear. . .india would not move forward until tata and the indian government got their share.
Worth repeating. . .
;-)
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