Posted on 06/09/2017 10:35:25 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
California voters overwhelmingly oppose a recent tax and fee package pushed by Gov. Jerry Brown and the Democratic-dominated Legislature to pay for road repairs, a new poll finds.
The gas tax law, which ushers in a 10-year program to raise more than $52 billion for transportation projects, is so unpopular it could backfire on Democrats in upcoming elections.
Fifty eight percent of voters oppose Senate Bill 1, including 39 percent who say they strongly reject the legislation, according to the survey from UC Berkeley’s Institute of Governmental Studies. Only 35 percent favor the law, which raises taxes on gasoline and diesel and hikes vehicle registration fees to fix roads and highways.
The opposition is widespread. Voters in all major regions of the state other than the Bay Area, all listed races and ethnic subgroups, and all age categories over 30 are unhappy about it. Strongly liberal voters are the only group in which a large majority supports the law.
Senate Bill 1 endeavors to raise $5.2 billion annually through a 12-cent gas tax increase that begins in November and a new fee based on the value of vehicles.
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When I have to cross into CA from AZ I always make sure I have a full tank.
Over a twenty gallon tank it saves $30 — simply amazing what the California residents allow.
I have a family member over there. He pays a water bill which works out to between $400 and $550 a month for a 2600 SF house, small yard, two people, no pool. JUST WATER.
I pay about a tenth of that and I have a pool. A pool in AZ eats water. They have those big salaries in the Bay area and the LA basin and they fool themselves they make a lot of money. Their mortgages, taxes and cost of everything makes it all artificial.
I agree with you that we should “...stop THAT - to make taxes collected in one state NOT be used to benefit other states.”
CA “gets back” about eighty cents of every dollar it sends to DC.
https://www.creditloan.com/blog/united-states-federal-tax-dollars/
https://www.bing.com/search?q=federal+dollars+received+by+state&first=1&FORM=PERE
Nonsense - people love high taxes.
That’s why they keep voting for them. :)
Living here in Massachusetts, we were the beneficiaries of that federal ‘grease’ in the “Big Dig”.
I was all for the Big Dig-I thought it really improved Boston a great deal...and it has IMO, but that is beside the point.
Since I first heard about it in the Eighties, I never gave it much thought...I viewed it like any other big public project and I thought.
But over the years, as became more enmeshed in the hows-and-whys of the Federal money, how it is taken from people in their federal taxes, then given back to them (if they are lucky) to be used as a carrot on a stick to make states toe a federal line (often unrelated in any way, anything from Common Core adherence to seat belt mandates)
That is if you are lucky, and have politicians like Fat Ted who played the corrupt game, and got not only our own federal tax dollars back, but took tax dollars from people living in places like South Dakota and Texas. If you don’t have good, corrupt politicians who know how to play that game, your dollars never come back to help you.
That really stuck in my craw, and if I had to live that over, I would be against the project unless it could be funded at the state level. Not funding it at the state level further removes checks and balances, and makes our tax dollar expenditure completely disassociate from our representation.
It makes it a open money pot that competently corrupt politicians will be well versed in dipping their hands into it to buy their own votes.
I regret not having thought it through, but I was a young man back then with other things on my mind.
“OTOH, I retired a few months ago and now one tank lasts a month!!! Ha!”
BOL! We fill up my wife’s Lexus about once a month and get it washed at the same place.
My Ridgeline gets filled, whenever it needs it, about every 2+ months.
About 6 years ago, a neighbor sold her gas eating Mercedes and leased a Toyota Pius. She put the remainder of her Merc sale into a savings account, not for the interest, but to separate it from their checking.
She is finishing the lease on her second rental Pius and has money left over for another 3 year lease. She fills her Pius about every 2-3 months. Her vehicle insurance rates are very low.
She learned this from her brother and SIL in S California. They are about to drop out having any car and use Uber for local stuff and rental cars to come up north to visit her. They use Uber to go to and from the airport to avoid driving and a big parking bill after their trips.
Cry me a gas pipeline.
Sht, I thought there was no tax Californicators did not like, sending them to electric car heaven?
Like Venezuelq, expect this Paris-Accord tax to not go to infrastructure but to Cuba
they’ll never get rid of the rats....the gimmedats are too entrenched....the welfare state has become way too successful at welfaring.
I was going to mention the difference in AZ/Cal gas prices, you beat me to it. I was gobsmacked when I drove to Needles from Yuma 5 years ago. The closed Tesoro station with the reedonkyoulous prices was an eye opener.
Gas is still cheaper in Cali than in my neck of the woods, but that’s thanks to the Cdn and BC gov’ts stultifying tax rates, plus the expense of shipping the crude south and the finished product back north. The exchange rate is a bit of a factor, too.
And what will really speed it up is when Trump gets rid of a bunch of regulations that CALI will try to keep in place on their own.....the landslide of business outside of CALI will quicken over time.
And their gas is that 91 octane crap,
I make my own 117 octane race gas, paying about $7 a gallon. I can turn 87 $2 a gallon gas out here for 100 octane for about the same price Cali gets its 91 crap.
For the children.
Yea, I hear in Alabama that the work requirement for food stamps is driving some of them out of state to Cali... This is a win win formula.
Cheapest gas in Needles, CA right now: $3.79/Gal
Cheapest gas in Ehrenberg, AZ (just across the river) right now: $2.29/Gal
For about two decades we vacationed and visited relatives in Oregone.The
We will fill up here Californicator Land and barely make it gas wise to Ashland or Brookings, Oregon.
We would fill and drive around Oregon with better mileage on every vehicle we drove.
Then, we would fill up in Oregone on the trip home. The vehicles ran great, got great mileage with somewhere between a 1/4 to 1/3 tank of gas left.
So we paid more in California for gas that didn’t perform as well and had to pump our gas here.
I don't live in California. Why should I care if the backs of California residents are broken by high taxes? It may actually be a good thing for the rest of the nation.
Let California be known as a good example of bad policy.
They’re idiots. When this passed our local news station ran a story about it on Facebook. Comment after comment saying....why didn’t we get to vote on this? It’s like they don’t realize the people they vote for votes on it for them. I give up.
Oldest trick in the book for any government:
“We are taxing you for X. We are way underfunded on X.” (sotto voce - “but we are secretly spending your money on Y”)
Gasoline is the absolute worst thing that can be taxed. Raise tax on gasoline and every product that has to be transported goes up in price, which in turn causes us to pay even more tax on each product. It’s a tax on tax scheme that needs to be outlawed.
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California is the nation’s largest payer of federal taxes, but we come in below the median in benefits received.
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