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To: Helicondelta

she wrote “created” but she seems to mean “formally recognized.”

however, the thought still seems a bit off, since it seems to infer that the united states owes its existence to the largess of other countries instead of through its own efforts by way of a successful revolution against england.

a sovereign nation can come into being, but other countries still need to recognize it in order for the process to be entirely formalized. before the treaty of paris and other parallel treaties signed at the same time by united states’ allies, the existence of the united states had not been legally recognized by any countries, thus (i think) they were technically still british subjects until the treaty was signed.

(note: i am not a historian, so there is a considerable chance that i may have missed something.)


10 posted on 06/03/2017 2:17:11 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

France helped


14 posted on 06/03/2017 3:41:19 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: SteveH

largess -> largesse


15 posted on 06/03/2017 3:44:32 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

We are still subjects of the crown if they decide to take us back, but reality is, we are strong enough to stand by ourselves and defend ourselves. The recognition of foreign countries was earned and only a formality... for them. We could have cared more if they did or not... we were free.


24 posted on 06/03/2017 5:06:37 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: SteveH
For your convenience.

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31 posted on 06/03/2017 6:19:46 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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