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California Wants to Make Health Care a ‘Right’
American Spectator ^ | May 25, 2017 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 05/26/2017 11:17:42 AM PDT by Twotone

Bay Area Assemblyman got an earful last week as he pushed a largely symbolic bill that would have made it legal for California public employees to be members of the Communist Party. Rob Bonta of Oakland contritely withdrew the measure, which had passed out of committee, after leaders from the state’s large Vietnamese community gave him an earful.

California has many problems — none of which are the doing of avowed communists in state government. Instead of worrying about this nonsense, Republicans should be gearing up to fight a frightening Bonta-coauthored bill that makes no direct reference to communism, but apparently was inspired by the same kind of thinking despite its benign name, “The Healthy California Act.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: communism; rights; robbonta
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1 posted on 05/26/2017 11:17:42 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone

And ice cream. Chocolate, please. And a pony.


2 posted on 05/26/2017 11:19:07 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
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To: Twotone

Rights are from God, not gubmint.


3 posted on 05/26/2017 11:19:25 AM PDT by exnavy (God save the republic.)
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To: Twotone

Make working an obligation.


4 posted on 05/26/2017 11:22:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Twotone

And then the state has a RIGHT to expect you to work for a living.


5 posted on 05/26/2017 11:27:17 AM PDT by LydiaLong
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To: Twotone

California also talks about secession. I agree, they should.


6 posted on 05/26/2017 11:27:24 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Twotone

Doctors will be held captive like Cubans?


7 posted on 05/26/2017 11:31:50 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Twotone

I want my flying car....


8 posted on 05/26/2017 11:32:40 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (FUMSM)
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To: Twotone

Until unborn babies have a right to life . . . nobody has a right to healthcare. What about unborn babies right to healthcare first?


9 posted on 05/26/2017 11:33:35 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Worst 8 years ever, First Affirmative Action President, I hope those who did this to us SUFFER MOST!)
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To: Twotone

California citizens are prolly in favor of this until they see how much it really costs.


10 posted on 05/26/2017 11:34:46 AM PDT by umgud
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To: RckyRaCoCo
"I want my flying car...."

I'll see your flying car and raise you a time-machine ...


11 posted on 05/26/2017 11:36:10 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Ex Scientia Tridens)
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To: exnavy
Rights are from God, not gubmint.

To Liberals, government is God.

12 posted on 05/26/2017 11:36:35 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Modern secular liberals, yes.

It’s a poor imitation of godly liberality and one which will always turn illiberal and fail at its own stated purpose.


13 posted on 05/26/2017 11:43:57 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Twotone

The Ctrl-Left wants to create positive “rights” to go with the actual (in their terminology “negative”) rights in the Constitution. The problem is that positive rights carry obligations. If you have a right to health care, that means a doctor/nurse is obligated to do their job for you, whether or not they are paid for that work. This used to be called slavery, and for a very few brief years democrats pretended they opposed slavery.


14 posted on 05/26/2017 11:46:41 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pollster1

Not even this fits well on God’s plane. God wants to see those helped who in turn are willing to help others in their time of need. And all of this is personal in a sense of God’s love. Government schemes are impersonal — they lack a face. They do not rouse conscience.


15 posted on 05/26/2017 12:05:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Twotone; All
California seems to have the constitutionally correct idea about healthcare imo.

More specifically, the states have uniquely had the 10th Amendment-protected power to regulate, tax and spend in the name of INTRAstate healthcare since they ratified the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

The problem with low-information state lawmakers is that they don’t seem to have a clue that the corrupt feds have been stealing state powers, and uniquely associated state revenues, that the states could otherwise be using to run their own healthcare programs, the feds stealing state revenues in the form of unconstitutional taxes, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

Also, consider that if the states ever get the idea that the corrupt feds can run a national healthcare program better than any of the 50 states can, then there is nothing stopping the states from amending the Constitution to expressly give the feds the specific power to establish such a program.

On the other hand, note that regardless what lawless Obama’s state sovereignty-ignoring Supreme Court activist justices wanted everybody to think about Obamacare, the corrupt feds wrongly ignored securing the required constitutional consent of the states before establishing unconstitutional Obamacare.

16 posted on 05/26/2017 12:12:19 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Agreed. There is no virtue in “generosity” with other people’s money. Pretending that giving away things created by and belonging to others counts as charity is so absurd that only a modern liberal could pretend it makes sense to them.


17 posted on 05/26/2017 12:29:56 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Twotone

Well, in some ways aspects of health care can be considered a “right”. For instance, it would be an infringement on your right to health care to interfere with a man with a full wallet offering the doctor of his choice money for the care he wants or needs.

It is an infringement on health care to tell medical students who want to deliver babies that they must first practice aborting some babies before they will be allowed to pratice medicine.

Now, what isn’t and CANNOT BE an infringement on the right to health care? Well, no one has the right to a cure, as some haven’t been invented yet, and some things may be incurable. Killing others for your health care is not a right, so it is wrong to harvest babies’ organs for someone else’s illness.

Mandatory medical treatment provision for all would imply mandatory impressment of doctors, and that would violate the 13th Amendment against slavery. If you can order someone to work on the patient, or bake the cake, arrange the flowers, or face ruination, we are outside of the realm of employment and into the realm of slavery, even if it is well-compensated slavery (see Kurt Flood Decision).


18 posted on 05/26/2017 12:29:58 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Twotone
Republicans should be gearing up to fight

No, what they're going to do is bargain and grovel with Dems to make it a little-less socialist, and then they will beat their chests at how they prevented 100% single-payer and supported 99.9% single-payer, and that the remaining conservatives in CA must vote for them. Or else CA will become full-blown Marxist.

19 posted on 05/26/2017 12:38:53 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Man-made global liberalism is killing the planet)
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To: Twotone

Maybe not dying should be a right..


20 posted on 05/26/2017 12:39:10 PM PDT by mulligan
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