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Elton John: MTV Era Produced Many Untalented Musicians
Variety ^ | 5-22-2017 | Leo Barraclough

Posted on 05/22/2017 11:28:23 AM PDT by Snickering Hound

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Well.. I don't know. I spoke to some acquaintances of mine who remember when MTV first came out. 80s and were old enough. The vids. At first it was cool but By today's comparisons were tackey. It was an art form. You need to focus more on the song instead.

I looked at some of the old videos on youtube, they were strange, the one that freaked me out the most was Michael Bolton. I mean a guy with long hair a tight suit jiggling his butt around is not what I want to look at when watching a music vid.

The others remind me a lot of those random flash cartoons Clock Crew and Star Syndicate on Newgrounds.

41 posted on 05/22/2017 11:57:24 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: dfwgator

That was the first album that he did the lyrics himself, without Bernie Taupin.

It was then that I realized it was Taupin’s lyrics that I liked more than John’s melodies.................


42 posted on 05/22/2017 11:58:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To: Snickering Hound
Interestingly, Taylor Swift did the 1989 album just to prove she has the talent do to a wide range of music. And in recent years, Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta, better known by her stage name Lady Gaga, has also started to expand her music styles just to show she isn't associated with trashy music videos. And Gaga is a VERY good singer and piano player as we've found out recently.
43 posted on 05/22/2017 11:58:47 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I was around 16 and I noticed it right away. The music just took an epic nose dive. I think the reason is before MTV, records were sold on how good they were. When MTV came along, the music industry discovered they would also sell if it was advertised in a video that was played in heavy rotation. Basically sight took over sound to sell music and they realized “Hey, why invest in a band when all we have to do is invest in a single video”

It was like the early sixties, with all the Teen Idols, like Fabian, until, The Beatles came along.

44 posted on 05/22/2017 11:59:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Snickering Hound

Video killed the Radio Star.


45 posted on 05/22/2017 12:00:21 PM PDT by heights
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To: BipolarBob; Cecily

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muskrat_Love


46 posted on 05/22/2017 12:02:23 PM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To: mainestategop
I looked at some of the old videos on youtube, they were strange, the one that freaked me out the most was Michael Bolton. I mean a guy with long hair a tight suit jiggling his butt around is not what I want to look at when watching a music vid.

The most hideous video ever was Billy Squier's "Rock Me Tonight". Pretty much ended his career because it was so gay.

47 posted on 05/22/2017 12:02:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I hate that song.


48 posted on 05/22/2017 12:02:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: edh

This may be what happened to Christopher Cross. I recall in 1980 when his song “Arthur’s Theme” came out with the Liza Minelli movie of the same name. Chris had one big hit right after another, Ride Like The Wind, Sailing, and others.
Then MTV became popular, and Chris didn’t look like the typical entertainer with his large, heavy frame. He looked closer to Meat Loaf, but Meat Loaf had a different stage persona, wild, raunchy and gutteral. Chris’s music alluded to opposite impressions. He didn’t make the leap into MTV appeal with all it’s TV rules and expectations.


49 posted on 05/22/2017 12:03:35 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: dfwgator

Michael Jackson is still far more musically talented than any rap “artist” you could name, and rap hasn’t even come close to producing a talent like Stevie Wonder.


50 posted on 05/22/2017 12:03:37 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: dfwgator

After that, I became a fan of the new piano player guy on the scene, Billy Joel...................


51 posted on 05/22/2017 12:04:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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corksoaker

That's good. I'll have to remember that one.

no-talent . . . His fame was fired solely by the glamor of Evil.

I have to disagree. Elton John is a fine craftsman on the piano and was gifted with a good singing range. He was also lucky enough to hook up with Bernie Taupin. His fame was built upon a ton of well-produced pop songs bought by fans who had no idea at the time what a disgusting freak he was.

52 posted on 05/22/2017 12:04:22 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: dfwgator

That’s actually a very good point.


53 posted on 05/22/2017 12:05:05 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: dfwgator

Could you imagine that song charting today? I know it’s from a completely different era, but I couldn’t see him and the way he looked at age 25 recording a song like that, making a video, and raking in piles of cash the way he did during his Piano Man, Streetlife Serenade, Turnstiles, The Stranger, 52nd Street, and Glass Houses days. Never. He was cemented in pop culture by the time the video era began (The Nylon Curtain - River of Dreams).

(I’m bracing myself for an “I hate Billy Joel” quip :-) ).


54 posted on 05/22/2017 12:05:35 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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....the fact that I can’t buy a CD of a 40-year-old album for less than 20 bucks is an absolute crime.

Come on, guy. Where are you shopping? 😄

#1 Albums of 1976, available on Amazon:

Chicago IX: $7.99

Earth, Wind & Fire "Gratitude" $7.99

Bob Dylan "Desire" $6.99

Eagles Greatest Hits 71-75 $9.99

Peter Frampton "Frampton Comes Alive" $10.57

Wings "At the Speed of Sound" $14.33

Led Zeppelin "Presence" $10.99

Rolling Stones "Black and Blue" $10.99

George Benson "Breezin'" $4.99

Fleetwood Mac "Fleetwood Mac" $8.99

Stevie Wonder "Songs in the Key of Life" $11.88

55 posted on 05/22/2017 12:06:02 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Red Badger

I wasn’t particularly fond of “Piano Man” when it came out. But the first time I heard “Prelude/Angry Young Man”, I became a big fan.


56 posted on 05/22/2017 12:07:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Snickering Hound

To me, the biggest legacy of MTV is the attention-span-of-a-gnat so prevalent is literally everyone today.


57 posted on 05/22/2017 12:07:44 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: Vendome

Milli Vanilli for one...

BOOM! Kill shot!! I was going to say Dexies Midnight runners but I think Milli Vanilli tops them


58 posted on 05/22/2017 12:08:05 PM PDT by BobinIL
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To: henkster

The best modern (by modern I mean current to this decade) metal band I’ve heard is from France, of all places. Gojira. This song is entitled “Stranded.” They manage to somehow sound at least a little melodic, unlike most current metal that’s just yelling and guttural sounds over a beat with guitar riffs. Video’s a little creepy, though.

https://youtu.be/FNdC_3LR2AI


59 posted on 05/22/2017 12:09:36 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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“This may be what happened to Christopher Cross.”

I was going to bring him up :-)! Unbelievable musical talent that wrote a few hits right at the dawn of the video era ... didn’t have “the look”.


60 posted on 05/22/2017 12:09:54 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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