did I fall asleep and Raquel Welch circa 1970 became First Lady..,,what a side view...and she's so sweet
Posted on 05/21/2017 10:37:16 AM PDT by bobsunshine
There is undoubtedly a positive message being sent when a US president chooses Saudi Arabia, the land of the Two Holy Mosques, as his first foreign destination. This positivity, shown by Donald Trump, deserves our sincere gratitude for choosing to endorse the moderate Islamic world.
Moderates in the Kingdom and worldwide have always wanted a serious partner to help reclaim the narrative from extremists, and a clear distinction between those who believe Islam is against terror and those who use it to justify terror. Some people with twisted minds have used our religion to create confusion and obscure its real message, which is peace for humanity.
Sadly, not many are aware that Muslims, more than any others, have been the victims of terror. We have paid the most in blood for this monstrous perversion of our religion. Yet we are the ones who bear the profanities and inanities that appear so often in Western discourse.
History is replete with examples of how the Muslim world has been a natural ally of the US. Like all good friends we have had differences in our long relationship, but we have never lost sight of the power the US can exert by standing shoulder to shoulder with us as we fight and neutralize the barbarous terrorism that has taken many shapes and forms.
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I do not think they are out to destroy the West.
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So it’s kinda like saying that the terror cells are a result of Saudi building of madrassas gone horribly right?
one wonders, when the handlers take the rattle snakes from the cages in your church on Sunday morning, are you fearful the snake will get loose and get you?
History also shows us how liberal Democrats have love in their hearts for the needy and downtrodden. /s
Was Charles Manson America done right?
Did he represent our government?
Do all criminals represent our government, work in some interconnected dastardly plot?
I have said that I do not think that Islam and the West are compatible. I don’t know how much more plain I could have made it.
Saudi Arabia is not intent on destroying something it can take over peacefully, and use to it’s own ends.
My Sunday morning service is at the Church of John Moses Browning.
Exactly right, the only weapons delivery we should make.
Not sure, but I just put a pork shoulder slathered in Apple-bourbon BBQ sauce into the crock pot in honor of this visit. And I will toast our President with The Balvenie this evening.
No, I mean that, assuming that the terror plots came from Saudi-sponsored madrassas and mosques, they did the job of teaching Islam so strongly that they ended up working against Saudi interests.
Thus, ‘gone horribly right.’
Okay, I’m beginning to see what you were referencing.
Interesting take, and I’m inclined to agree with it.
I want folks to understand that the leadership doesn’t always control what the Islamic Imams are teaching. They have to appear to get along, but that may not always be the case.
If it were the case that the leadership was very in tune with Wahhabiist beliefs and goals, the comments from the leadership would be much more strident and confrontational.
I suggest the leadership is much more moderate than a lot of people wish to believe.
I believe they too cringe at times at what some of these sect members do in the name of Islam.
If a strict Wahhabi adherent were to gain control of the nation, we would be seeing something looking like Iran on steroids.
Yes, it does seem that the Saudi leadership want control or at least secular goals, but the imams and their hangers-on want war. And the imams are too important to contradict.
I’m just glad that it’s the President threading this maze and not me!
No one has suffered more under Islam than Muslims. They’ve died by the 10’s of millions at their own hands.
Well, I’m certainly glad it’s now Trump and not the know nothing low life.
Oh yeah. That should go without saying, but it’s definitely worth saying anyways.
This clown is from here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_World_League
A Saudi gov’t-controlled purveyor of Wahhabism in the US and elsewhere worldwide.
We’re giving Saudi Arabia a lot of weapons and the theb the government will be overthrown and presto....Islamic nutjobs (worse than the Saudis) will have serious firepower. Count on it
Agreed. It’s affirmation...
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did I fall asleep and Raquel Welch circa 1970 became First Lady..,,what a side view...and she's so sweet
Sadly, not many are aware that Muslims, more than any others, have been the victims of terror. We have paid the most in blood for this monstrous perversion of our religion. Yet we are the ones who bear the profanities and inanities that appear so often in Western discourse.
Actually, throughout the 1400 year history of Islam, the reverse is true. But anyway...
In my view, the saner segment of the Moslem world, especially leaders in Jordan, Saudi and Egypt, want to stop the crazies (ie devout Moslems). But they cannot without getting dragged out of their palaces and governement buildings and slaughtered.
Pres. Al Sisi of Egypt has twice given big speeches about how Islam needs to reform and stop trying to control and conquer the world, stop the jihad, stop the killing others who aren’t Moslem, and so on. Stick to the prayers, haj, give charity, etc.
But these saner ones have no power to change their countries without the muscle and support of the US. Now that Trump has their back, change will come to the Middle East, I am sure of it.
And how many regular citizens in these countries would like freedom from sharia law, the freedom to think and believe what they choose? I am sure many would. But in a world controlled by “radical” it traditional imams and their followers, regular people have no choice. They like having their heads and hands attached.
This will, IMHO, change.
Then the sane Moslem countries can help take care of the ones who refuse to change - such as Iran and Pakistan.
Not convinced you’re wrong there at all.
You touch on a dynamic I’ve considered for literally decades. The leaderships of these nations hang on by a thread in most instances.
Look at the Arabs on the West Bank. If they show ANY willingness to work with Israel, they stand a strong chance of being hung or stoned in public.
I would submit that part of the reason Ghadaffi was finally ousted, was not due to mistreatment of the populace, but his mellowing out toward the West.
Mubarak was removed for being too Western oriented IMO.
It goes all the way back to Sadat.
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