Posted on 05/03/2017 1:00:55 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
President Donald Trump vowed on Wednesday to work to broker peace between Israel and the Palestinians as he hosted Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas at the White House but offered no clues about how he could break the deadlock and revive long-stalled negotiations.
In their first face-to-face meeting, Trump pressed Palestinian leaders to “speak in a unified voice against incitement” to violence against Israelis but he stopped short of explicitly recommitting his administration to a two-state solution to the decades-old conflict, a longstanding bedrock of U.S. policy.
"We will get this done,” Trump told Abbas during a joint appearance at the White House, saying he was prepared to act a mediator, facilitator or arbitrator between the two sides.
Abbas quickly reasserted the goal of a Palestinian state as vital to any rejuvenated peace process, reiterating that it must have its capital in Jerusalem with borders based on pre-1967 lines. Israel rejects a full return to 1967 borders as a threat to its security.
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Maybe he ought to be getting a little nervous.
the one that sets up the so-called peace with Israel, it will be for 7 years, and it will be broken, and the final war will come to pass... and that one who does the peace is not one of God’s people.
I donno about that.
Seems to me we both said much the same thing just with different word choices.
Someone - or ongoing history - will explain to Trump that not every problem has a negotiable solution. There are times and situations where compromise is not attainable.
In the article at this link:
https://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/2017/04/do-palestinians-want-a-two-state-solution/
a lengthy report analyzes multiple polls and surveys of “Palestinians” over many years. It shows there is very little chance that any majority of “Palestinians” either want an actual “two-state” solution or would accept the terms of any reasonably possible two-state solution.
Here just three of the items reported:
In a 2014 survey of Palestinians, the runaway first choice, selected by 60 percent of respondents, was “to work toward reclaiming all of historic Palestine from the river to the sea.”
In a June 2015 poll, with Palestinians asked about a Palestinian goal for the next five years, the option of “reclaiming all of historic Palestine from the river to the sea” was the most popular choice.
Another poll in 2015 with Palestinians asked “There are also different views about who has any rights to be in historic Palestine. Do you think that Jews have some rights to the land along with the Palestinians, or that this is all Palestinian land and the Jews have no rights to it?” An overwhelming majority, including 81 percent of West Bankers and 88 percent of Gazans, answered unequivocally that “This is all Palestinian land and Jews have no rights to it.”
I am afraid that either Trump knows not what he is actually up against, or, like other presidents before, will try to put his own legacy above all else, and in the subject at hand that would wind up trying to be worse toward Israel than was Obama.
Note to Mr Trump: Someday a majority of Palestinians may decide they want peace more than anything else, and more than destroying Israel. That day is not here and will not be here while you are president, even be that 8 years time.
Well, he really is a terrible negotiator. Look at the budget deal. He got owned. I think it takes a lot of arrogance, which every POTUS has had, that they can bring peace to the middle east.
You met with Abbas. Fine. Whatever.
Now move the damn embassy to Jerusalem.
East Jerusalem.
The President should let this one slide.There’s no deal with Pali-fascism which doesn’t screw Israel. Move on.
Spicer’s explanation for how Trump is going to accomplish this is amazing.
“I think the man is different,” Spicer responded. “You look at––the president’s diplomacy style is paying dividends.”
Seriously, the best conclusion to this nonsense would be for Israel to treat the troublesome Paleos like ICE in the US. If they commit crimes, deport them and don’t let them back in.
Since just kicking the Gazans into Egypt, and the West Bank troublemakers into Jordan solves nothing, Israel could “kill two birds with one stone”, by deporting them to South Sudan.
And pay the South Sudanese a stipend to take care of them. Which would probably mean kicking them across the border into Muslim Sudan. A very long way from Israel.
This would also give the Israelis an excuse to give their South Sudanese ally some foreign aid as well.
If you'd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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Given the fact that the "President" hosted at the White House today is in the tenth year of his four year term, in control of a bit more than half of his population, the rest governed by a designated terror group, this is a fools errand. No "deal" struck will be honored by future governments, warlords, mullahs, whatever. And should they suggest years down the road that the "deal" was illegitimate, entered into by an illegitimate government, I couldn't mount a very good argument against them.
Base funding on a cessation of salaries for murderers and a cessation of violence. Be serious about it. See what happens in a few years. Could even throw in Bibi's longstanding arguments in favor of economic development. I'm sure investors could be found.
Wouldn't move to "East Jerusalem", silly term, in any case. But I suspect he'll be fine leaving it in Tel Aviv. It's an issue of US national security. We'll know in June.
A shame Wuli isn't a Presidential advisor. Any President back to Bush I. He could make a start. Apply pressure to stop incitement, hope for the next generation. Spend US dollars on economic development not terrorists salaries. Hard to find investors, yes, but I bet Israeli companies will be willing to invest. Aid in the establishment of an elected government Recognize it will take years for a transfer of power or two. Avoid Bush mistakes. Bush I made the fatal error of bypassing the bedlam of local leadership in the Madrid/Oslo process and opted for the fast track, well known leader. Yasser Arafat. Brought his number two man along, today's President for life Abbas. A doomed process from that decision forward. Terrorists don't reform. Bush II, pressuring Israel and the PA to allow an armed terrorist group, Hamas, to participate in elections. Egypt rejected his insistence to allow the Muslim Brotherhood in elections, Israel/PA should have done the same. What to do with Gaza, who knows.
The only thing passed was a continuing resolution to keep govt running under the old budget. Democrats did not get anything they did not have in the old budget. So they won nothing. Its the same as before. However, Trump got the rule on parity removed for military spending and got 2/3 of what was asked, he got funds to continue building the 24 foot metal wall the agents asked for plus more for INS enforcement, plus funds for implementing school choice.
Dems got nothing they did not have in the budget from last year.
Rebuild the Temple and there will be peace.
Stop fake two-state solutions and defend Israel!
Trump’s performance thus far is best characterized as schizophrenic.
There was candidate Trump and now President Trump.
There is what he says on day X and then what he says on day Y.
There is what he says and then what he does.
I’ll wait to see what happens in Israel, both a litmus test and a milestone.
His wait and see crap is getting very old very fast.
June 5th 1967 was 26 Iyar, 5727 (Day 2).
May 22nd 2017 will be 26 Iyar, 5777 (Day 2).
Exactly 50 years later and the same Day (2).
You can’t make this stuff up.
Good word for it. Overt weirdness is the 'tell' re Divine orchestration. Considering that the Redemption process is anything but business as usual, it makes perfect sense, if that makes sense.
When did hezbollah leave the Golan hts?
Yes, it does make sense, but I’m leaning toward *just* schizophrenia over (overt) Hashgacha Pratis.
We’ll know soon enough.
Also a Super New Moon (Rosh Chodesh Sivan) a couple days after he leaves.
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