Ping to # 51 and # 52 , then read new comments. There is something dark and ominous going on here. Why at this late date?
Posted on 04/26/2017 10:25:27 PM PDT by Brown Deer
Barack Obama is no longer president, but the birther movement alleging that he was born abroad still lives – thanks to his half-brother.
Malik Obama tweeted a copy of what he claims is a valid birth certificate proving that his half-brother was born in Mombasa, Kenya.
The 'birth certificate' bears the letterhead of the 'Coast Province General Hospital' in Mombasa.
The sex of the baby is male, and the date of birth is listed as August 4, 1961, which is the former president's genuine birthday.
The 'document' also lists the names of Obama's parents, Barack Hussein Obama and Stanley Ann Obama (née Dunham).
Malik Obama is a resident of Kenya and a naturalized US citizen. It is estimated that he has between three and 12 wives thanks to Kenya's legalization of polygamy, according to The Washington Post and CNN.
Last July, Malik Obama told the New York Post that he would be supporting Trump.
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0b0z0 still is the highest ranking, overachieving illegal alien in history.
He turned an illegal residency into a two-term presidency.
The MSM claims that ‘brilliant’ 0b0z0’s IQ is the highest ever to be president. If we get his school records, the dumbest foreign student to ‘graduate’ from Harvard will surely emerge for all to see.
No, he wasn’t. There was no maternity ward on base. To be honest, McCain wasn’t anymore eligible than Barry since he wasn’t born on US soil. He was born outside the base. Ralph Nader wasn’t a NBC, either. We should have had Bob Barr as POTUS if we had followed the law.
Oh, well I didn’t need know that bad lol
In the Senate Resolution 511 to vet McCain, he and Hillary both were part of the 6 member committee that invited in Homeland Security Chertoff where they all agreed and signed their names declaring NBC was defined as born on US soil to two US citizen parents.
S.Res.511 asserted that is was appropriate to eliminate the "born on US soil" requirement for persons born on US military bases abroad.
The case I cited stands for the proposition that US military bases overseas are not US soil, so the distinction of being born on vs., being born off the base is, according to that case, immaterial.
But, Congress doesn't abide by the constitution in myriad ways, generally supported by a rogue SCOTUS that exists to facilitate unconstitutional incursions by its brethren branches of the federal government. Mangling the NBC clause to suit the moment is par for the course.
Finally, I wan't disagreeing with you in principle, just correcting an immaterial point.
That very well may be true, as you said -- that the birth certificate was fake.
Those are real problems, other than the very last, for Soetero's mother was herself born to parents who were themselves born citizens of the U.S.
One natural born citizen parent is enough to convey citizenship -- although there are additional U.S. domicile requirements for children of U.S. citizens born abroad.
Where they all agreed and signed their names to what? If you have anything there, it must be something other than ;
RESOLUTION Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.
Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a "natural born Citizen" of the United States;
Whereas the term "natural born Citizen", as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;
Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President;
Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the "natural born Citizen" clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress's own statute defining the term "natural born Citizen";
Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;
Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and
Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it
That John Sidney McCain, III, is a "natural born Citizen" under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.
The "...declaring NBC was defined as born on US soil to two US citizen parents..." part is not exactly found in that Senate resolution. That matters, if that exact definition (and none other) is what you are reaching for.
It doesn't matter if either you, or I would prefer the definition to be and read as simply as you have here sought to have things. What matters more is what the present codes of law do say.
McCain was born of two citizen parents (who were themselves born as citizens). I take it that was the deciding factor, and was applicable in McCain's circumstances of birth, yet was not there in that particular Senate Resolution stipulated that it be the definition, and the only definition.
Hahahahahahaha...
I absolutely, without apology, doubt EVERY thing about Obama.
That's just so much smoke and mirror treatment of laws pertaining to citizenship and naturalization. "It matters" you say? phhfft. It does not to the circumstances of McCain birth, and Cruz's also (though to lesser extent, Cruz having only one citizen parent at time of birth ---Cruz's own father becoming naturalized citizen only some time later).
Those individuals (McCain and Cruz) it is recognized within statutes were born as natural citizens.
That is different than "naturalized by statute" when the statutes are recognizing "nature" and natural birthright, albeit extended beyond physical borders of the United States.
The example in the link you had provided involved circumstance where neither of the individual in question parents were themselves born as citizens, and so would not apply to Soetero, to McCain, or Cruz either, for reason that U.S. laws do stipulate that person born of even only one citizen parent are born citizens of the United States.
From the pdf you had provided link for the 5th Circuit case;
v.
LORETTA LYNCH, U. S. ATTORNEY GENERAL
“Persons not born in the United States acquire citizenship by birth only as provided by Acts of Congress.”To interrupt here, "citizenship by birth only as provided by Acts of Congress" is not discussing one be naturalized by statute, but instead would be citizens at birth according to statute. In this instance, there were stipulations described by statute which were not met, hence the individual Jermaine Thomas be considered not citizen by birth.
At the time of Thomas’s birth, Congress extended birthright citizenship to children born abroad to one citizenAre you a "statutory birthright citizen"? I am. I was born in the United States. My mother and father and were born within the United States to citizen parents, as were their parents and grandparents and great-grandparents before them.However, it is undisputed that Thomas was not a statutory birthright citizen because his father did not meet the physical presence requirement of the statute in force at the time of Thomas’s birth.
The phrase 'citizen by statute' is not, and cannot be set against the phrase 'natural born citizen' as if there be some crucial difference there which results in not being "natural born citizen", for the former phrase (citizen by statute) does include the latter (natural born, ie., within the borders of the United States, to two citizen parents) even though there is recognition within statutes for there being natural birthright citizenship extended also in particular circumstances to those not born under the same conditions as was -- for example--- myself.
Oh Geeeez, not this crap again. Get over it, its over, its not going to change anything. History will decide, read about it in 2100. It should all be straightened out by then. President Comacho the III will release the findings.
“Birtherism” is the greatest Alinsky ever perpetrated.
They have gotten the American people to reject one of the most valuable safeguards bequeathed to us by the founders.
The natural born citizen clause served us well until we ignored it.
Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama should be proof enough of the wisdom of the founders when they tried to prevent him from being President by requiring someone who could only be a US citizen and nothing else.
Born here of citizen parents.
Naturally a US citizen because there is no other possibility.
One cannot be anything else and also be a natural born citizen.
It does not matter if he was born in Hawaii if his father was a foreign national.
Children of foreign nationals inherit the nationality of their foreign national parent(s).
Natural born citizen means born here of citizen parents.
No other possible citizenship(s).
Only when one cannot be anything else can one be a natural born citizen.
No foreign birth.
No foreign parent(s)
No foreign citizenship(s)
No foreign influence on the Presidency is what John Jay stated in a letter to George Washington as the reason for insisting on a natural born citizen.
Obama told us he was born a British subject.
Who believes Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jay, Monroe, Madison, etc. would have found him to be a natural born citizen?
Who believes they would have thought the recently deceased King of Thailand was eligible to be President?
He was born in Cambridge MA.
Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009, happened with the complete cooperation of both parties.
They want the Constitution changed without the hassle of amending the Constitution.
Confuse people about the clear meaning of a three word phrase and voila, every anchor baby and Winston Churchill is eligible.
The bench was the reason the GOP went along with the fig leaf resolution for McCain that was used by the Democrats as cover for Obama.
Jindal, Rubio, Haley, George P. Bush and Cruz were all up and comers and the future of the party and ineligible.
The truth of the Kenyanesian Usurpation will never see the light of day because both parties cooperated in the violation of the Constitution
The Kenyanesian Usurpation was brought to you by BOTH parties.
The Constitution says natural born citizen.
That means one who is naturally an American because they couldn’t be anything else, born here of citizen parents.
Everyone in DC wanted that changed without the hassle of amending the Constitution.
The Senate passed a resolution declaring McCain a natural born citizen because he had TWO citizen parents, even though he was born in Panama.
Then Obama runs and wins based on just being born here, even though he told us on his website he was born a British subject as the result of having a foreign national father.
So the standard went from born here of citizen parents to just TWO citizen parents to just being born here in one election cycle without amending the Constitution.
According to this standard the recently deceased King of Thailand was eligible, he was born in Cambridge MA, as well as every anchor baby with no loyalty to the USA.
This was done intentionally because Rubio (no citizen parents), Cruz (foreign birth, one citizen parent), Jindal (no citizen parents), George P Bush (one citizen parent) and Haley (no citizen parents) were all ineligible and the future of the GOP.
The truth of the Kenyanesian Usurpation will never see the light of day because they ALL cooperated in the violation of the Constitution.
There is no proof to this day that McCain was born on a military base in the Canal Zone. That is his claim, but he still will not release his birth certificate.
That’s who I voted for, the only eligible candidate on my ballot.
Something has always puzzled me about the people who believe that the presidency has been usurped by foreign national.
It puzzles me that their response to that act of war is to post frequently on an internet message board, when the PROPER response of people who believe that the government has been overthrown SHOULD be armed counter rebellion.
So, my question to you is, where’s your weapon?
That’s some interesting fiction. Can you quote from the CFR where that provision is contained?
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
Ping to # 51 and # 52 , then read new comments. There is something dark and ominous going on here. Why at this late date?
Numerous accounts back then said that McCain was born in a military hospital, but NOT in the American Canal Zone. The hospital was in Panama City, which was not in the Canal Zone. It was in Panama proper, not in the Canal Zone.
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