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Why North Korea won't give up its nukes voluntarily
lowell sun ^ | 4/24 | peter lucas

Posted on 04/25/2017 12:00:29 PM PDT by luke1825

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To: wastoute

“From our perspective, having killed Jung Un with 59 or so cruise missles his generals probably would not be terribly interested in going to war.”

That’s a heckuva assumption. BTW, did they ever catch Chemical Ali?


21 posted on 04/25/2017 12:53:36 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

I seem to recall he was executed early on. Even before they had Sadaam.


22 posted on 04/25/2017 12:54:28 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Tallguy

Jung un has been murdering his relatives and select generals to maintain his grip on power. It would not surprise me if most of his generals would not be eager to provide us with his itinerary.


23 posted on 04/25/2017 12:56:13 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

Yeah. Looked it up. I thought he was at liberty for a long time, but he was arrested in ‘03.


24 posted on 04/25/2017 12:57:40 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: wastoute

Kim has redoubts buried so deep that no conventional weapon could ever reach them. I expect he’s getting all the sleep he wants.


25 posted on 04/25/2017 1:00:39 PM PDT by Seruzawa (I kill you filthy Vorga.)
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To: wastoute

A nuke missile might be fired before the Coup takes hold. The stakes are considerably higher for Japan, SK & China. They all may become less cooperative if this drags out.


26 posted on 04/25/2017 1:04:08 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

I think the point you raise is, indeed, the whole point. As of this moment, Kim has no reliable nuke or missile. How much longer will we allow this fat prick to blackmail us with weapons he doesn’t even have? 2 parts to the answer. My vote is we end it here before he REALLY gets out of hand.


27 posted on 04/25/2017 1:09:54 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: luke1825

Let’s not forget Ukraine!


28 posted on 04/25/2017 1:10:56 PM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: luke1825

Use them or lose them.


29 posted on 04/25/2017 1:13:29 PM PDT by kabar
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To: luke1825

Power crazed dictators never give up power-NEVER. It has to be taken , they have to be crushed. They give sane people no other choice. NK want’s SK. They’re not going to get it. What they will get is destroyed.


30 posted on 04/25/2017 1:15:03 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: wastoute

Boil it down and I think I have to agree. But wars have a way of not working out to our liking. We would probably succeed in taking out Kim, at great cost. But China will likely reap the rewards as Iran did after Saddam’s removal.


31 posted on 04/25/2017 1:15:15 PM PDT by Tallguy
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Power crazed dictators never give up power-NEVER.

This is actually the general case: those in power tend to not give up power.

32 posted on 04/25/2017 1:29:08 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: luke1825

Do not forget Bill Clinton’s role in the Balkans.

When he wanted a “wag the dog” event, the NATO charter meant nothing. It was completely a violation of the NATO charter to go to war in the Balkans.

The Serbs did not have Nukes, so they were forced to the Will of Bill Clinton and NATO.


33 posted on 04/25/2017 1:33:50 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: luke1825

“Sometimes you lose your country and your life even if you don’t have weapons of mass destruction, like Saddam Hussein in Iraq.”

He lost me when he proved to me he didn’t know what he was saying as soon as he said this.

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34 posted on 04/25/2017 2:01:40 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: luke1825

Gadhafi had uranium not nukes ...


35 posted on 04/25/2017 3:40:20 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Sometimes you lose your country and your life even if you don't have weapons of mass destruction, like Saddam Hussein in Iraq

Except that he did, of course.

36 posted on 04/25/2017 3:40:22 PM PDT by libertylover (In 2016 small-town America got tired of being governed by people who don't know a boy from a girl.)
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