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North Korea Threatens to Sink a U.S. Carrier. Could They?
Popular Mechanics ^ | 4/24 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 04/25/2017 6:43:22 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

In the end, North Korea has an even bigger and more basic problem: It couldn't actually find a carrier if it wanted to. The country has shore-based radars, but those have limited range and a carrier can easily stay out of range. A carrier's aircraft and escorts will shoot down or sink any of North Korea's aircraft, drones, submarines, or surface ships before they gets with sensor range of the mother ship. While this isn't guaranteed in every scenario, North Korea's antiquated equipment is easily to detect.

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To: TangledUpInBlue

They probably do have that capability. However, having the capability and being able to execute it are not the same. They can definitely load up some of their single man submarines with explosives and suicide the carriers, but could they get close enough to do that?


21 posted on 04/25/2017 7:15:43 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: WMarshal
Remember, our navy under the traitor Obama, often let small Iranian boats harass them and get way too close. What are the chances that the USN still has idiotic ROEs and commanders putting our people in danger?

Currently the USS Michigan SSGN and The Carl Vinson task group are deployed in the area. I'm sure Trump and Maddis have given all these ship commanders complete attitude adjustments on ROE. They'll get to everybody else as needed.

22 posted on 04/25/2017 7:21:22 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

“I think we are GROSSLY overestimating the capabilities of the North Koreans.”

I’ve been wondering that too. I mean this people can’t even produce or manufacture a light bulb (not that they need them). But their “capabilities” have been coming from their pals, not from their own abilities—Bill Clinton comes to mind.


23 posted on 04/25/2017 7:23:47 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: blam

“They got crap...a lot of old (technology) hardware and bodies.”

True. But a lead ball from a 250 year Kentucky Long Rifle can still kill ya.


24 posted on 04/25/2017 7:25:06 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Yes. they have a million man army. I doubt they could sustain the supply lines to support them


25 posted on 04/25/2017 7:25:19 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: Jim Noble

“You do not seriously believe that a President would murder millions of civilians because of a successful attack on a purely military target, do you?”

Ask the relatives of the Japanese civilians who were “collateral damage” in World War II as a consequence of the attack on Pearl Harbor.


26 posted on 04/25/2017 7:25:51 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: WKUHilltopper

Well we also import all of our lightbulbs now, from China.

Just saying.


27 posted on 04/25/2017 7:26:59 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

China has sponsored, supported and armed the Norks, who threaten to nuke US cities and carriers.

Why don’t we give nukes to Taiwan, South Korea and Japan and see what China does if they threaten to nuke China.

That would be only fair, no?

Imagine if Taiwan were run by a apocalyptic madman and we nuclear armed him - that is basically what China has done with fat Kim.


28 posted on 04/25/2017 7:27:01 AM PDT by Bon mots (Laughing at liberal tears!)
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To: antidemoncrat

China isn’t that stupid.

NK isn’t that good.


29 posted on 04/25/2017 7:33:07 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

There is a concept called “technological surprise” or “technological conceit”.

There is no way a competent slinger can defeat an armored man with a lance. How could these primitives possibly orbit a satellite before we can? How cold these primitives possibly photograph the far side of the moon? How could these primitives land a robot on Venus? How could they possibly knock down a tall building in New York? How could they possibly kill or maim a thousand US soldiers with pressure cookers?

Poverty and lack of resources can be great incentive for innovation, sometimes world-changing innovation.

So naturally there is no way the North Koreans could take out a carrier! We have radars! Satellites! Fighter patrols! Sonar!


30 posted on 04/25/2017 7:36:32 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Starboard

The NORK’s do have satellites up there so I suppose it’s possible for them to get at least a general idea of a carriers location, but I would still put my money on the carrier groups multiple layers of defenses.


31 posted on 04/25/2017 7:41:42 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: wbarmy

Agree....like building 4 at Fukushima power plant.


32 posted on 04/25/2017 7:51:21 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: TangledUpInBlue
A lot of speculation whether they can hit us.

Yes, they probably CAN. They have missiles that CAN reach out and sink ships.

Its important to note that The Vinson and it's Ticonderoga class cruiser and 2 Arleigh Burke destroyers are all armed with Phalanx CIWS, Sea Sparrows, Rim-116s. The cruiser and destroyers are all Aegis equipped .

Basically, the best anti-ship missile defense system.

The defense capabilities are 3 layers (4 if you consider electronic counter measures)
First are medium range SAMs,
Then ECMs and Sea Sparrows or RAMs, lastly the Phalanx CIWS.

With the Aegis system, 1-single ship is very capable on its own. The Aegis allows detection and engaging multiple targets.
Combined with more ships detection and tracking increases as well as launch capabilities.

Everybody seems to be running around with wringing hands.
This is war and never under estimate your enemy.

At the same time know your enemy's strengths and weaknesses.

Fatman is very limited in equipment, even if Chinese provided. Even if he has ability to detect and track our ships and if he has a top notch missile to reach our ships, that missile would have to penetrate 3 layers of missile defense, provided by 3 Aegis equipped ships.

Lil Kim will need more than one missile. More like Dozens.

33 posted on 04/25/2017 7:54:11 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: odawg
What can help us believe is the fact the Norks have satellites orbiting above the United States.

Do they now? If true then how do they spot a carrier in the Sea of Japan if the satellite is over the U.S.?

34 posted on 04/25/2017 7:56:03 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Red Badger

Engrish.


35 posted on 04/25/2017 7:58:46 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Fresh Wind

ROR!.................


36 posted on 04/25/2017 8:00:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To: Red Badger

I smell the possibility of a Gulf of Tonkin or Remember the Maine effort by the establishment.


37 posted on 04/25/2017 8:13:34 AM PDT by MountainYankee
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To: MountainYankee

They couldn’t pull off a Gulf of Tonkin incident nowadays like Johnson did in 1964...................


38 posted on 04/25/2017 8:18:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To: cba123

Yeah, but it’s not like we can’t manufacture light bulbs. You can thank Oshitass for killing off light bulb manufacturing here.


39 posted on 04/25/2017 8:18:55 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: buckalfa

Stealth Fighter, F117A.


40 posted on 04/25/2017 8:29:27 AM PDT by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen)
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