-PJ
Posted on 04/19/2017 12:12:03 AM PDT by Robwin
PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) -- Every submarine in the U.S. fleet was designed with the height, reach and strength of men in mind, from the way valves are placed to how display screens are angled.
That's going to change.
With women now serving aboard submarines, defense contractor Electric Boat is designing what will be the first Navy subs built specifically to accommodate female crew members.
The designers are doing the obvious things, such as adding more doors and washrooms to create separate sleeping and bathing areas for men and women and to give them more privacy. But they are also making more subtle modifications that may not have been in everyone's periscope when the Navy admitted women into the Silent Service.
For example, they are lowering some overhead valves and making them easier to turn, and installing steps in front of the triple-high bunk beds and stacked laundry machines.
The first vessel built with some of the new features is expected to be delivered to the Navy in 2021, the future USS New Jersey.
The Navy lifted its ban on women on submarines in 2010, starting with officers. About 80 female officers and roughly 50 enlisted women are now serving on subs, and their numbers are expected to climb into the hundreds over the next few years.
For now, the Navy is retrofitting existing subs with extra doors and designated washrooms to accommodate women. But Electric Boat in Groton, Connecticut, is at work on a redesign of the Navy's Virginia-class fast-attack subs and is also developing a brand-new class of ballistic-missile submarines, relying on body measurements for both men and women.
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-PJ
And I have nothing but loathing and contempt for a nation that would put its young women in harm's way unnecessarily.
I kind of wanted to join the Navy, but chose the USAF instead, primarily for that reason. I didn't want to be stuck out at sea, for LONG periods of time.
Will they accommodate the dick choppers too?
That’s touching. But facts are facts. She would better serve her country by having a family during those precious reproduction years a woman has and by being there for her kids. Performing man roles isn’t good hour her, or us.
All she can do on a warship is hurt the effort. It’s not about her.
“For example, they are lowering some overhead valves and making them easier to turn, and installing steps in front of the triple-high bunk beds and stacked laundry machines.”
Here’s a suggestion, which would save a lot of money: Have a height requirement, with concomitant strength (if that can be assessed). Depending upon their needs, all service branches do it to one extent or another.
cc: President Trump
Transgenders are next on the list.
They were conscious of that problem too.
I think females on submarines is a terrible idea. When I was on a Carrier, a lot of them got pregnant, and weren’t available for deployment. That problem is magnified on a submarine because of the smaller crew. If one crew member, especially from the Engineering department, can’t make movement, it gets very hard to make the watchbill, and you would have to take a guy from another boat.
A fine movie by any measure. Makes a rotten policy manual, though.
That is a great post. Please tell Minor49er that I am grateful for her service.
She sounds like a patriotic, generous American who was certainly raised well. To care about the troops in high school? Awesome.
Kathy, thought you might be interested in this, since you post the canteen thread. :)
Why do we even have to go to the Navy to know this is a bad idea? The USAF has had women in aircraft maintenance for decades, and it’s been a failure. Some can do the job but most can’t even do the heavy lifting. At best one out of 8 is the success rate. Heard that the USAF tried a few times to run the numbers but they were so bad they had to stop the process before it was finished due to political correctness. It didn’t fit and nobody wanted to ruin their career even if the numbers were on their side. Something often not brought up is that training costs money plus resources and failures waste it. If putting women in aircraft maintenance was an experiment, it would have failed.
The heavy lifting part alone should disqualify women from almost every single job the military has to offer enlistees, except for JAG, Chaplain and so on. Women officers, I think are more successful (career minded) and more mature when they first go on active duty, but what happens when they get captured? They would get raped dozens of times a day.
OPERATION PETTICOAT - Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_6CKOM4pGI
Just get the Plans for the Submarine Seaview that was on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
Never saw a Sub with so much interior room. LOL
What would be sop for an Ohio ssbn on patrol when a petty officer is 6 months pregnant?
5.56mm
That’s touching. But facts are facts. She would better serve her country by having a family during those precious reproduction years a woman has and by being there for her kids. Performing man roles isn’t good hour her, or us.
All she can do on a warship is hurt the effort. It’s not about her.
Exactly.
Women hurt readiness. Thats what it should be about.
I don’t care that there are women sprinkled here and there that are doing a good job. Those are anomalies, not the norm. If we were serious about having the most prepared military that operated at peak efficiency women would not be on combat ships or combat units. Nothing can be said to negate that FACT.
Can Minor49er make me a sammich?
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Women on subs is all about making women feel good about themselves, thats it. It makes ZERO sense. There is not one thing supporters can say to justify women on subs. Hell, i can’t justify any reason for women on any ship.
Ship’s doctor now has to have a gynecology degree?
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