Posted on 04/17/2017 8:13:01 AM PDT by Academiadotorg
It occurred to me, why not take the same approach to Health Care?
Horrid. More federal overreach and another entitlement.
How about no federal funding at all for State schools?
No, not federal funding. Do away with the fed’s involvement with ALL education. Nuke the DOE!
This should be handled on a state basis.
Exactly. If this passes, the next step is “reasonable” regulation of private schools which accept state or federal funding.
It would be nice to simply see a property tax credit for anyone who does not support government schooling...but there again, in a free society we should not have property taxes on privately owned property.
Americans love freebies.
the correct position would be to get the Feds out of education entirely.
Agreed. Property taxes make us all serfs, in a way.
Sure over a certain maybe homesteading and business level, tax that property. But whenever you take the consumer of a service, in this case, schooling, away from being the purchaser you introduce third-party inefficiencies. Add in government funding and you’ll have as big a mess as we have now at the college level.
It COULD be, but it may also be a relinquishing of control reins so communities can better make decisions for their own community.
Once tax dollars get involved, there will be no such thing as “private school”. What were once privately-run schools will end up being subject to the same rules and social dysfunction now ruining public schools. When John-Boy dons a skirt, and demands to use the girl’s room at XYZ Christian Academy, they will have to let him. When Muslim’s complain that there is too many crosses, and not enough prayer rugs, the ACLU will be right in the middle of it.
Federal funding never does that. It does the opposite.
Closing down the Dept of Ed would have done that.
As a (former) homeschooling mom, I’m concerned to have the government’s fingers in this pie. I am all in favor of school choice, but let’s say someone like Obama is Prez, and tells all the schools receiving funding that they must teach/ have field trips to Planned Parenthood; that they have to use certain curriculum; that they have to teach LGBT ‘love and marriage.’ Money coming in gives control to the giver. Just my concern.
Buckeye, exactly. Things start to change.
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponents Argument
What low-information citizens evidently do not understand about federal funding for INTRAstate schools is the following. The states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend in the name of intrastate schooling. This is evidenced by the following excerpts from the writings of Thomas Jefferson and a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices.
On a few articles of more general and necessary use, the suppression in due season will doubtless be right, but the great mass of the articles on which impost is paid is foreign luxuries, purchased by those only who are rich enough to afford themselves the use of them. Their patriotism would certainly prefer its continuance and application to the great purposes of the public education, roads, rivers, canals, and such other objects of public improvement as it may be thought proper to add to the constitutional enumeration of federal powers [emphases added]Thomas Jefferson : Sixth Annual Message to Congress
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." United States v. Butler, 1936.
So until the states appropriately amend the Constitution, intrastate schooling is off limits to the feds.
The main reasons that the feds provide funding for schooling purposes is this imo. Corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification lawmakers are exploiting low-information voters, winning their votes with promises for such funding, such voters not understanding that the feds have no constitutional authority to provide such funding.
Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!
Remember in November 18 !
Since Trump entered the 16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the 18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.
Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist Supreme Court justices off of the bench.
In fact, if Justice Gorsuch turns out to be a liberal Trojan Horse then we will need 67 patriot senators to remove a House-impeached Gorsuch from office.
Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February 18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.
While I Googled the primary information above concerning Iowa and New Hampshire, FReeper iowamark brought to my attention that the February primaries for these states apply only to presidential election years. And after doing some more scratching, since primary dates for most states for 2018 elections probably havent been uploaded at this time (March 14, 2017), FReepers will need to find out primary dates from sources and / or websites in their own states.
Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitutions Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal governments powers.
Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal governments limited powers listed above.
Federal funding? Where is the money coming from? Sounds like another entitlement program.
Here in Pennsylvania we're very hopeful there are enough conservative votes (at LAST !) to eliminate the property tax as a government indoctrination funding tool and go to a sales tax increase of one percent.
Old people with no stock in what the governemnt indoctrination centers are producing will no longer be forced to fund anti-American indoctrination.
Why should I pay for kids' indoctrination that come out with no political compass, no moral core values, no definition of sexual self and a complete disregard for the USA ?
I was in third grade, and even I got it.
Agreed totally! I hope it passes.
The economy is turning the corner, there is no excuse left to not Home School.
Love your kids?
PROVE IT, HOME SCHOOL them!
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