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The DoD Has No Idea How Much The Mother Of All Bombs Costs

Posted on 04/14/2017 9:31:50 AM PDT by marktwain

The giant bomb U.S. forces dropped Thursday on an ISIS training camp in Afghanistan did not cost $314 million to develop, or $16 million per unit as reported by multiple news outlets.

Every news report about cost of the “Mother of All Bombs” relied on a misreading of a 2011 article or a dubious internet website that InfoWars once linked to with a “healthy bit of skepticism.”

The actual cost of the bomb is unknown. The actual cost of the program isn’t publicly available because the Mother of All Bombs, officially known as GBU-43 or the Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB), is manufactured by the military and not a private defense company. (RELATED: US Drops ‘Mother Of All Bombs’ On ISIS In Afghanistan)

In fact, the Air Force doesn’t even keep track of the per unit cost, nor the cost of the program as a whole, because it is not manufactured privately.

“We don’t have a cost per unit” for the MOAB, Air Force spokesperson Ann Stefanek told The Daily Caller News Foundation. “These munitions were produced in-house so we don’t have a standard procurement cost associated with them.”

The Air Force mostly used existing technologies and hardware for the first MOAB prototypes and never contracted out the full production of the bomb, so they did not need to itemize and add the cost of each weapon component, Stefanek told TheDCNF.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; airforce; defensespending; moab; motherofallbombs; pricetag
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To: luvbach1

Now, to raqqa, dabiq, rinse, repeat.......

Cheers

KYPD


21 posted on 04/14/2017 10:03:35 AM PDT by petro45acp (" It IS About Islam: exposing the truth about ISIS, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the caliphate" by Glenn Beck)
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To: marktwain

I find your estimate quite plausible and reasonable. Thank you.


22 posted on 04/14/2017 10:07:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: marktwain

You can build a W-88 warhead for about $1mil, excluding the cost of the “material”.


23 posted on 04/14/2017 10:12:29 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner; All

You can build a W-88 warhead for about $1mil, excluding the cost of the “material”.


And that is a combination fission-fusion thermo-nuclear weapon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W88


24 posted on 04/14/2017 10:17:56 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and hisHe's won supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
t is one hell of a lot less for the result than the sending of 50 WWII B-17’s

A whole lot less than 60 missile too. War stops when one side can't continue, not before.

25 posted on 04/14/2017 10:20:38 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: marktwain

That “cost” employs hundreds (if not thousands). The “cost” of war is a redherring. MONEY STAYS RIGHT HERE.


26 posted on 04/14/2017 10:23:24 AM PDT by sagar
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To: sagar; All

The “cost” of losing is huge.

Peace through strength.

If you want peace, prepare for war.

These are obvious truisms that the left disputes.


27 posted on 04/14/2017 10:26:52 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and hisHe's won supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Who cares!?

Its cheaper than the arms, legs, and lives it would have cost to send in ground troops to that area.


28 posted on 04/14/2017 10:27:09 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: marktwain
Having worked in the DOD for 30 years, my guess is that the in house cost for these weapons was about $200,000 each. Note that they contracted for the design of the guidance system, and that only cost $35,000. That is for the design, the most expensive piece of the puzzle.
They produced 10 of these weapons in only nine weeks. If we allow for a team of 50 people working on project, at a cost of $50 per hour and 40 hours per week, one week per bomb, would be 2,000 manhours or $100,000 for labor. Add $100,000 for material, which seems fairly generous.

The 13+ million per bomb story that is floating about is complete B.S.


Yeah, the MOAB was one of these quick and dirty projects that got done fast by a small and dedicated team of engineers and techs because we needed it.

The MOAB is just a really big fuel -air bomb that is relatively inexpensive to produce. We should use them more often

29 posted on 04/14/2017 10:31:33 AM PDT by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ...)
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To: G Larry

Amateurs discuss tactics.

Professionals discuss logistics.

Cost is important.

An yes, we have traditionally been willing to expend expensive munitions to save American limbs and lives. Lots of other countries do not value their soldiers so much.

It is one of the reasons we have the best military (for its size) on the earth.

(part of that is no one else can afford what we are willing to spend)


30 posted on 04/14/2017 10:31:59 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and hisHe's won supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: dp0622

All I can say is that when I was on Active Duty they made me account for every penny. When I was a civilian Fed Employee they made me account for every penny as well. Even to the point of making me attend meetings in cities where it was impossible to eat or stay on the travel allowance they paid. Now, I was just a schmuck and not family or friend of the powerful so I had to play by the rules.


31 posted on 04/14/2017 10:36:23 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: rdcbn; All

Yeah, the MOAB was one of these quick and dirty projects that got done fast by a small and dedicated team of engineers and techs because we needed it.


Bingo. You nailed it. I saw similar projects on other items. Amazing the dedication of American DOD personnel when they realize that our troops lives’ are on the line in combat.

Of course, a very large number are former military.


32 posted on 04/14/2017 10:36:27 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and hisHe's won supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

That’s not surprising, since the DOD is “missing” $6.5 TRILLION of our tax dollars! They have never been audited because there is no bookkeeping system in place. At least when they have a few big bombs, there is something to show for our money, but that’s only a few measles millions. Someone should be in prison for their colossal theft.


33 posted on 04/14/2017 10:42:28 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: marktwain

Couldn’t care less what it cost.

Release the video of it’s use and make us proud...


34 posted on 04/14/2017 10:44:42 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: marktwain

Good.

http://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104614/massive-ordnance-penetrator/ takes you to the USAF fact sheet on the weapon—it is “Massive Ordinance Perpetrator (MOP), not MOAB.

Media gets it wrong again.

Cost, found at: http://www.saffm.hq.af.mil/Portals/84/documents/FY12/AFD-110211-039.pdf?ver=2016-08-23-123609-213, pg 05-1 and also page 05-63. . .cost $23Mil for the program start.

With this success, asking for next fiscal year to add $40mil for procurement and an additional $55Mil for more RTD&E.


35 posted on 04/14/2017 10:46:42 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: rdcbn

On another site, a Marine VN War vet commented his unit assembled a very large bomb. It was a connex container loaded slap full of C4. They rigged up a fuse system and set it off. He indicated it was quite impressive.

Cost? The materials were already in country and were supposed to be used.


36 posted on 04/14/2017 10:50:09 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Fresh Wind
It was paid for years ago, and there are no plans to replace it.

Like the 15 year old cans of Paint I still have on the shelf in the basement. Should have used them when I bought them and had the chance.........

37 posted on 04/14/2017 10:52:38 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: marktwain

Bombs like these have a shelf life. At 17 years old, it was near the use it or lose it place in its life cycle.


38 posted on 04/14/2017 10:59:56 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: marktwain

Good analysis and thoughts. I do remember reading years ago that bunker buster bombs were going to be fashioned from the remaining inventory of battleship 16 in gun tubes.

Could this use of surplus quality steel reduced the cost to almost miniscule, at least in federal procurement terms?


39 posted on 04/14/2017 11:06:27 AM PDT by whistleduck ("....the calm confidence of a Christian with 4 aces".....S.)
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To: marktwain

“Lots of other countries do not value their soldiers so much”

This is so key to understanding the state of world wide military affairs.

Goes to show why we have to fight to keep the dignity and value of human life in our laws.


40 posted on 04/14/2017 11:33:18 AM PDT by Romans Nine
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