Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Australia's green delusions: A diesel in the shed
americanthinker.com ^ | 4/13/2017 | Viv Forbes

Posted on 04/13/2017 7:50:13 AM PDT by rktman

A Diesel in the Shed. You can have your solar panels and your turbines on the hills; You can use the warmth of sunshine to reduce your heating bills.

You can dream you’re self-sufficient as you weed your veggie bed; As long as you make sure to keep A diesel in the shed.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aussies; downunduh; ecowankers
Go green. Woo Hoo! But keep a back up handy and ready to go. ;-)
1 posted on 04/13/2017 7:50:13 AM PDT by rktman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: rktman

Diesel powered by vege oil would be a carbon neutral solution...how about solar...windmill..hydro..generation...big battery electric storage and vege oil diesel as backup?


2 posted on 04/13/2017 8:07:30 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Getready

Ah, but where do you get your vege oil. Biofuel has a very high carbon footprint. Tractors and pesticides to grow the crops, trucks to haul the crops to the factory, power to operate the processing machinery, and trucks to ship the product to your home all utilize “non-green” energy sources. I suppose if you happen to live on a farm you could grow your own corn, peanuts, etc. and invest in the equipment to extract usable quantities of oil, but the cost would be higher than buying it a quart at a time at the supermarket. If one takes a systems approach, all of the so-called “green energy solutions” are not particularly green, not energy efficient, nor are they cost effective.


3 posted on 04/13/2017 9:11:05 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: nuke_road_warrior

If all the machinery needed to process or deliver was run on vege oil that carbon footprint would be a lot smaller. P.s.high mileage diesel engines at this time use less fuel.there are lots of oil sources...jatropha and algae are good sources..this wont be grown for food...so pesticides may not be necessary unless they destroy the crop.


4 posted on 04/13/2017 1:40:51 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Getready
Again, where do you get all that vege oil? If we somehow manage to replace all petroleum based fuel with vegetable base fuel, the cost of that conversion will be astronomical. The process to convert the plant matter to usable fuel on an industrial scale is not particularly efficient. Even plants that have a high oil, or sugar (for conversion to ethanol) content require large volumes of material to processed for the quantity of useful fuel produced.

Any hydrocarbon containing material can be converted to fuel, but algae has not proven practical for industrial production. You invest too much energy and effort removing the water, to make the final product cost effective.

As for jatropa the following is from Wikipedia “However, despite their abundance and use as oil and reclamation plants, none of the Jatropha species have been properly domesticated and, as a result, their productivity is variable, and the long-term impact of their large-scale use on soil quality and the environment is unknown. 2009 research found that Jatropha biodiesel production requires significantly more water than other common biofuel crops, and that initial yield estimates were high.”

5 posted on 04/15/2017 11:37:56 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: rktman
From a self-sufficiency standpoint, I like the idea of possessing a diesel generator and/or vehicle because you can grow your own fuel, but barring some sort of dire situation, I just can't envision bypassing readily available and comparatively cheap diesel fuel to do so. But then, I honestly do not care about "green" as it's currently defined. Sure, minimizing pollution of air, soil and water matters but in this country at least, we blew past that years ago and now have an armed bureaucracy attempting to enforce what amounts to hair-splitting.
6 posted on 04/15/2017 11:46:30 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson