NY makes tuition free, but students must stay after college

AP ^ | Anna Gronewold and David Klepper

[Maine Mariner]

So is the state going to sue for tuition reimbursement if a student leaves NY? Would a student who took advantage of the free tuition and moved to CA be sued in CA.

A smarter move: after graduating from a college in NY, the state will reimburse your tuition if you majored in a STEM program. If you majored in a studies program, no tuition reimbursement for you. I see Como’s program churning out more people with .... studies degrees.

[dljordan]

“Modern indentured servitude, eh?”

Ya beat me to it.

[gibsonguy]

Wasn’t part of the original bill, BS. It was always going to be they just wanted to stick it in at the end.

[freedumb2003]

>>Why? (No argument,I really don’t know.)<<

It will hold up. It is a contract with both parties giving up something of value voluntarily.

Simple contract law.

I 100% guarantee even as foolish as NY is they vetted this legally.

[Mears]

Thanks !

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[dfwgator]

And what if they can’t find a suitable job in New York?

[freedumb2003]

>>And what if they can’t find a suitable job in New York?<<

From what I read, this is a student loan with a forgiveness clause. If you don’t perform the covenant, it just becomes repayable like any other student loan.

There are teaching loans that are forgiven only if the teacher spends a certain amount of time in inner cities and the like.

This is the same. A loan with conditional forgiveness.

[Huebolt]

Wow! “Escape from New York City” is not just a movie.

[Sacajaweau]

Pretty stupid plan. What are they going to do....send the cops after you? Confiscate their wages?

The Community college is practically free with NYS Grants.

Kids might even consider A JOB....like my kids.

[Lizavetta]

Students must stay in the state after graduation or else pay back the benefit.

Pay back? That's racist. They will raise a fit of being offended and their debt will be forgiven. Just watch.

[SamuraiScot]

Bear in mind that in-state tuition is pretty low at many of the schools--$7K a year at one my daughter is looking at, less if you get an additional scholarship, which they've offered her. Some are good and worth it, some aren't.

I think the kid raised a good point about New York being a better bet for some industries and not others. Seems to me a good strategy might be for the student to put aside the money he expected to pay in NYS tuition, or even invest it. If he decides to leave, he's had use of the money and perhaps made some with it. If he wants to stay, he's started a nest egg (which he'll need at New York prices and taxes).

This is the kind of benefit I'll accept, but cheerfully vote against if I get the chance.

[Mr. Blond]

Someone’s going to pay...

[Tai_Chung]

I see a new business opportunity here.

For a small fee, you can be “employed” in the state of New York for student loan purposes only. The fee may depend on the minimum number of hours per week you must work and if it is allowed to have your wages at 100% commission.

I assume thee are no residency requirements. It would be insane to require you to both live and work in New York.

[outofsalt]

“We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”
~Hillary Clinton

Unknown mob guys, "We'll do this thing for you but, sometime, we might need you to do something for us."

[dfwgator]

[Mathews]

Every job I've had required me to do a good job and pay back any relocation​/sign on money if I left within two years of being hired...

[Dick Bachert]

1981 FEE SEMINAR BOB ANDERSON PT 1
https://youtu.be/dJIZitQ18S8
1981 FEE SEMINAR BOB ANDERSON PT 2
https://youtu.be/pqNiz6J0xsg

[Secret Agent Man]

It is totally voluntary. No one has to take the deal.

I would not ever offer such a cushy deal with other peoples money in the first place.

[Bogie]

Looks like it.

The high paying jobs with the real challenge are in Silicon Valley

[markomalley]

I can see a tuition forgiveness plan being done by a state/local government...

...but not THIS one.

How can I, a FReeper, speak such heresy?

State/local governments do this kind of thing all the time, as does the federal government.

The feds (at least used to) have a program for student loan forgiveness for those who go in the military. Don't know if it still exists, but at least it used to.

State/local governments grant tax breaks and build out infrastructure on a fairly regular basis to attract industry to their locality. Some local governments work with industry to build out vocational training programs as well as college programs to build a trained workforce for the industry. These things are seen as win-win deals as they bring money into the local area.

So I could see such a thing at the New York State level, but with some caveats.

• It would only apply to majors that are shortfalls within the state. I could see such a major for an engineering degree, a computer science degree, and so on. I would have a hard time imagining that there is a massive call by New York State industry for women's studies majors or queer studies majors (to say nothing of art history majors).
• It's got to be accompanied by a similar vocational-technical program for the skilled trades. It's true that engineers design things, but machinists actually build them.
• It's got to be for some fixed period. 5 or 10 years.
• And it's got to be matched with other programs to attract industry to the state, so that people will have jobs when they get done with college.

Now am I naive enough to think they'll implement the bullets above? Of course not. That's why I said "I can see some kind of plan, but not this one."