Update: Syria, NORKs, Chicoms, & Russkies

self | 4/10/2017 | LS

[Oorang]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3542689/posts?page=316#316

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I don’t know much about Bannon, but I hope he understood the need for the Syria strike. Putin has been undermining our prestige — weakinging our alliances.

And North Korea might, I hope, see the need to assassinate its own dictator. Things like the Syria strike help convince them.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

“McMaster. I vouched for McMaster ... He was a rebel throughout the Iraq war, which kept him from being promoted. He’s exactly the type of outside-the-box thinker you want.”

Interesting!

Military leaders are historically far too regimented and conformist. They’ve also gotten overly-cautious. I hope McMaster can bust those traditions!

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

” ... no one will agree with any one policy.”

So true. Few people have a broad knowledge base and most refuse to admit it.

[Garth Tater]

Your knowledge of history is extremely limited and bordered by the rusty fence of liberal thinking. No genuine leader is going to tell the world what he is going to do before he does it

Again you seem to be in opposition to the views of our Founders. They thought that before we went to war a statement clearly laying out why we are going to war and citing much evidence was was owed due to "a decent respect to the opinions of mankind" which "requires that they should declare the causes which impel them"

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Real generals are few and far between.

Like this one?

War is a Racket - Marine Corp Major General Smedley D. Butler

I did NOT vote for you to try to tell him what to do or insist everyone has a right to know everything.

Would you like to see the Jefferson quote about an informed populace being essential to liberty again?

I believe the best defense is a good offense

George Washington believed we should stay out of foreign entanglements. Would you like to see that quote? Or how about I leave you with this quote by Thomas Gray:

“Where Ignorance Is Bliss, Tis Folly To Be Wise”

Have a nice life Molly, I'm sure it will be pleasant.

[Mollypitcher1]

You can take quotes out of context to your heart’s desire. You are REALLY stretching it when you take our division from George III in 1776 and try to place it in the same context as a warning to Russia/Iran/N. Korea/Assad in today’s world. I’d strongly suggest you go back to school to learn something about our history.
As far as George Washington is concerned, the world was not a shrunken apple in Washington’s time. I’ve been to enough places on the planet to have a full appreciation for relative distance in today’s world. Don’t try to mix apples and oranges. Wilson promised to keep us out of War until along came the Zimmerman Telegram. Roosevelt promised to keep us out of war until along came Pearl Harbor. “There will be wars and rumors of war until the end of time.” The Bible.
You can quote whomever you like and I’ll up you with ten. I will quote another view of one of our founders which DOES apply to today:

Samuel Adams
“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say ‘what should be the reward of such sacrifices?’ Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” — Samuel Adams

FYI We have been at war for decades against the scourge coming from the M.E. Siding with Assad does nothing to further our cause. Turkey is not our friend and needs to be dealt with judiciously. Erdogan is not Attaturk!

My life has been quite nice and is continuing at its normal pace. From your comments I would judge your intelligence is far inferior to mine. I hope you enjoy your future...and wake up before it is too late.

[little jeremiah]

I read that Pres. Trump asked Ivanka to meet with the PP head butcherlady to see if some understanding could be reached.

What a lot of people don’t seem to get about Trump is that he is willing and able to meet with just about ANYONE to see if something good can come out of it. Heck, he even met (so far that I read) THREE times with Rep. Elijah Cummings about pharmaceutical pricing.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I should check my ping list more. Thank you!

Very informative.

FRegards ....

[Garth Tater]

You can quote whomever you like and I’ll up you with ten. .

Do you even know where your best defense is a good offense quote came from?

"the only real defense is active defense", meaning defense for the purpose of counter-attacking and taking the offensive.
  Mao Zedong

Though it was actually made famous by coach Woody Hayes - and it was said in regards to a friggin football game.

You are really not doing too well here Molly, matching my quotes from the Founding Fathers with quotes from brutal communist dictators and football coaches and then telling me I am quoting the Founders out of context because the world has changed. That's really not what out of context means. I certainly wish I had your knowledge of history and the world.

If you want to refute the Founders' belief that "a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them" to war with the reasoning that we are an ignorant people and our leaders no longer need to even attempt to live up to our founding principles as you did when you said: "As far as an informed populace is concerned, I strongly doubt this country at this time can produce a majority informed populace." and that George Washington's warning to stay free of foreign entanglements should be ignored because the world is a smaller place now then I guess I and the Founders will just have to wallow in our ignorance. I personally am absolutely blinded by your brilliance. Got any more football quotes?

[humblegunner]

Are you really willing to take the risk that Washington, Alaska, Oregon, California all be sent back to the 1200s?

You said it was the 600s yesterday.

EMP blast sends us back to the 600s

I thought you were supposed to be the big shot smarty guy.

But you vary by half a millennia in your day to day rhetoric.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

‘My disagreement is ... with the lack of information he has given us to justify his actions.’

I don’t know all the specifics of what’s reported on why Trump made the conclusion he did, but ...

If he’s being vague, that’s because intelligence assets are on the line. He might be getting intel from Israel, for example? The Saudis? Hard to say. But you don’t compromise them unless you’re a first class creep.

[haircutter]

Thanks for that bit of information..

It help me understand better.

A few FR posters just trash Ivanka and the Trumps to the point, I don't enjoy FR like I use to...

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(p.s. just to share a personal note to you, we named our Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier, ‘Jeremiah’ the weeping Prophet from the Bible, and when the pup turned out to be ‘female’ we kept the name, and we call her ‘Miah’...she is so special and now 13 yrs old and in failing health, knowing one day, I'll have to make that difficult decision..JEREMIAH, our gift.) just sharing...

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I love going after nitpicking.

Actually, there’s a learning curve after a Pulse bomb.

People don’t have the skill sets to cope with no technology the way we did back in the 40s. We don’t have enough old school blacksmiths for example. So in some ways technology would be helplessly primitive shortly after an EMP. In other ways we would at least enjoy basic machinery and tools along with outside help. So it’s a fools errand to critique someone on that basis — it’s a grab bag.

[Garth Tater]

FYI We have been at war for decades against the scourge coming from the M.E. Siding with Assad does nothing to further our cause.

We have been arming and training islamic jihadis in Syria for several years now. We are their sworn enemies and they are ours. Would you like to see a few quotes? If the cognitive dissonance wouldn't cause you too much pain would you mind explaining to me why our soldiers are in Syria fighting alongside the likes of ISIS Chief Al-Baghdadi.


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[trisham]

‘Miah’

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Pretty name. I like it.

[little jeremiah]

I chose the name “jeremiah” for some personal reasons - someone found me here as I was stupidly using the first syllable of my unusual first name for a screen name, relatives got extremely riled up - liberals -.... so had to get a new account and chose jeremiah since his family didn’t like what he said either. Little since I am tiny and insignificant compared to the original Jeremiah.

[haircutter]

THANKS...

It takes a fur kid to make a house, a Home.. they love us unconditionally.

[little jeremiah]

Yes, it’s hard when animals, or anyone we love, has to continue their journey somewhere else.

[trisham]

I hear you. :)

[Garth Tater]

If he’s being vague, that’s because intelligence assets are on the line.

I haven't asked for all of the intelligence, just something. If we could read license plates from space 50 years ago then showing us an even less detailed photo than that of the location of the sarin gas attack would not comprise anything.

So far we have seen NOTHING from our side. Everything we have seen is from jihadi sources and we know that they lie, falsify evidence and stage death scenes. President Trump has created a rift between himself and some of his supporters that did not have to be. There has been enough time now to show a soil analysis from an independent source. Or a tissue biopsy from a trusted medical facility. Two sources that would in no way comprise intelligence assets, capabilities or methods. Where are they? Where is ANYTHING coming from our side?