Posted on 04/09/2017 5:13:15 PM PDT by Libloather
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Growers often use empty containers like this to store toxic chemicals. In the previous year, every Gatorade bottle Gabriel and his team found at grow sites tested positive for carbofuran, a neurotoxic insecticide that is so nasty it has been banned in the U.S., Canada and the EU.
Farmers in Kenya have used it to kill lions. Symptoms of exposure range from nausea and blurred vision to convulsions, spontaneous abortions, and death. “They just leave these sitting around,” Gabriel says as he carefully swabs the bottle.
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I don’t know what county you live in, but water rights are essential in an area that has very dry summers, and with small creeks and streams, people have no legal right, or moral right, to suck tons of water and deprive people downstream from getting any. You don’t like water rights? Change the law. Water rights make sense to me and most other people in rural areas.
Plus the dopers’ runoff of many chemicals, often used excessively and thus illegally, are going into the waterways. ALso the dopers are basically growing commercial ag on properties zoned R-5 which does not allow commercial ag. But no LE here so anything goes, including increasing crime of all kinds.
Fun fun....
In OR around here, everyone is armed. Gunshot wounds are more common, and crime in general, noticeably so since legalization. Is your county one with a lot of mj growing? Mind is.
Mere facts. For the record, I am in favor of people being allowed to grow mj FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL USE ONLY.
Should have added, this is my neighborhood. Growers down the road, up the road, etcetc. I see, smell and hear what’s going on, plus via other means, iow trusted people who see/hear/etc including first responders. Not made up, not rumor, not comic books.
“For the record, I am in favor of people being allowed to grow mj FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL USE ONLY.”
I concur 100%.
I won’t argue about what you see in your neighborhood. In our neighborhood just 2 blocks from our house was a drug house. I used to see the meth heads yelling mindlessly at each other when they walked up & down the street. Just after the morons set the house on fire everyone in the neighborhood learned heroin & meth were on sale at that place. Ugly stuff, indeed. Thankfully that’s all gone now.
I do know my SIL has lived in Boulder, CO for 20+ years. If there was negative change she would not only see it she would jump in to try & stop it with her progressive buddies. And to my knowledge she does not use cannabis at all.
“Is your county one with a lot of mj growing?”
I saw a special about an illegal grow with, I think, a thousand plants, but I don’t really know how many illegal grows there are.
Last rough figures I heard (and rough since no one has a list) maybe 100 illegal grows months ago, a half year maybe, and 10 permitted grows. I would estimate a lot more illegal ones as those were just ones people I know saw from the roads and counted. Some have an acre or more. And then there’s the ones in National Forest, which surrounds where I live.
I think you might mean RR-5 zoning, which is 5 acre minimum Rural Residential. Now the funny thing about that is I have neighbors who grow hay on 5 acre lots and sell it, although I don't know how they make any money at that. No one cares at all about their "commercial" activity. Likewise if they sell some of the fruit from a tree or two.
OTOH let a pot farmer grow 300 or 400 lbs of weed, and suddenly it is "wrong" even though it takes less water to do that than to produce 5 acres of hay.
Now I don't grow pot or want to grow pot, but those who do should have the opportunity...
huh ?
“Last rough figures I heard (and rough since no one has a list) maybe 100 illegal grows months ago, a half year maybe, and 10 permitted grows.”
I don’t think we have that many around here, but if they’re practicing even rudimentary OPSEC, I wouldn’t know.
The jail here is full to bursting. I doubt that a person could get arrested for a small amount of pot, even if he went into the police station and lit up. Oh, you’d get a ticket, but they have no place to hold minor offenders.
Although I would like to blame this on the illegal aliens, I have to admit that a good deal of the crime is committed by white trash, who seem to be growing in number.
Dope does not = hay.
Dopers love dope, and cannot see the downsides, of which there are many. A doped out society is a loser, ruined, easy to control, on its way to oblivion society.
It’s wild and wooly here, and I haven’t heard of anyone getting arrested for person use of mj in years and years.
LE doesn’t go after anyone in my area. Basically no LE unless they’re called to some scene, and that often takes 45 to an hour for them to show up. If they do.
Well gosh who would have ever thought that illegal enterprises would grow pot after the virtual legalization almost everywhere now? I’m shocked I tell you...shocked.
“LE doesn’t go after anyone in my area. Basically no LE unless they’re called to some scene, and that often takes 45 to an hour for them to show up. If they do.”
Sounds like time to dig in and fill sandbags. I presume you had plenty of ammunition before that terrible boating accident.
It’s been like this for years, actually my area has had a wild and woolly reputation for a long time. It’s just accelerated tremendously in the last year due to legalization of mj, all kinds of outsiders moved in, bought properties with cash, and putting up fences and growing. Break ins, shootings, car crashes with drivers running off, murders, etc. Many people here do target practice on the property; thankfully the evil cretins in Salem haven’t done anything (yet) to OR’s still decent gun laws.
At first, the cartels switched to focusing on heroin. They thought their illegal pot would not be wanted after legalization. Now they know they will be able to undercut prices - no taxes.
Illegal pot is going nuts. And it will be neurotoxic with those chemicals.
But all the underclass illegals or poor kids will buy the cheapest weed. Good plants will be expensive. So the cartels are happily growing more weed.
Bought in Mexico, with most of the other dangerous toxins they find.
Ah, so TheStickman's SIL knows only her personal experience of her area of the state, but you know what's true "overall"? Pray tell, how did you come by this superior knowledge?
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