[TigersEye]

First of all, I would not consider anything "factual" if it comes out of a U.S. intelligence report of any kind.

You have a very convenient way of believing in things.

You won’t get an argument from me on that. I’m no late-comer to the game, either. I’ve been saying the Iraq invasion was a disaster since the very beginning.

You're an expert when you need to be an expert.

I don't know what Obama did to turn Iraq into a dysfunctional mess.

You're completely ignorant when you need to be ignorant.

[Alberta's Child]

You're an expert when you need to be an expert.

Well, no. That's the point. If I'm NOT an expert and even I could see this disaster unfolding, then surely it was being managed by a bunch of simpletons.

You're completely ignorant when you need to be ignorant.

Well, no. How do you turn something into a dysfunctional mess when it is already a dysfunctional mess?