Posted on 04/09/2017 12:59:59 PM PDT by Kaslin
In a ridiculous discussion that sounded as though it belonged in a forum of a left-wing website, the panel on Sunday’s Meet the Press bemoaned how the country’s attitude towards women cost Hillary Clinton the White House. Moderator Chuck Todd read from the recent NYT column of Nicholas Kristof, who described Clinton’s idea of Trump voters as “I don’t agree with him, I’m not sure I really approve of him, but he looks like somebody who’s been president before.” Paraphrasing Clinton, Todd suggested that “she believed misogyny played a much larger role in this than it’s been analyzed by many of us.”
Helene Cooper, The New York Times’s Pentagon correspondent, agreed that sexism had a hand in Clinton’s defeat. “I think many women probably feel that way. And I don't think I would necessarily dismiss that,” she argued, “I've talked to plenty of Trump voters who say they just didn't like Hillary, including women who said, no, there's just something -- I just didn't like her. I think there's something to be said for that.”
“But I think we can’t pretend that this sort of misogyny doesn’t exist. I think it would be naïve,” she continued.
She wasn’t the only panelist who bought into Clinton’s assertions. David Brooks, another New York Times columnists (surprise, surprise), was in full agreement as well. “Gender politics clearly played a role in this election,” he opined before slamming Trump with a smirk:
Donald Trump is a cliché of old-fashioned masculinity and a lot of people long for that kind of masculinity which is never coming back, but they long for it. And so, to say that his hyper-macho stereotype is not part of why he got elected, I mean, it wasn't his knowledge.
‘Meet the Press’ Debates If Hillary Lost Because of the Country’s ‘Misogyny’
But Danielle Pletka from the American Enterprise Institute shot down Clinton’s whining and blame shifting. “Okay, first of all, Hillary Clinton doesn't want to take responsibility for anything. She lost the election because she's Hillary Clinton, not because she's a woman,” she declared.
She agreed that the women do have a more difficult time in politics, but she chastised the former Secretary for complaining about it. “Look, if you want to be a woman who's influential than stand up to it, ignore it and it will change over time. Screaming about misogyny doesn't change things,” she decried.
The National Review’s Rich Lowry agreed and pointed out that during the GOP primaries Trump was the largest figure on every stage. “So he had a certain executive bearing and that helped but ultimately Hillary Clinton is not just not good at politics,” he contended, “She's not a good campaigner and she's probably the one active politician in the country who could have lost to Donald Trump and she did.”
“You think another woman could have beaten Donald Trump,” Todd asked him, to which Lowry responded with: “A likable woman could have, yes.”
The media’s rehashed cries of sexism show that they are quite like Clinton, in that they don’t “want to take responsibility for anything,” as Pletka put it. And the only reason they brought it up this long after the election is because Clinton had crawled out of the woods and had cried foul to a sympathetic ear. It shows how, once again, the media will push her argument for her.
Transcript below:
NBC
Meet the Press
April 9, 2017
11:24:34 AM Eastern
CHUCK TODD: Back now with End Game. Hillary Clinton sort of came out. Did an interview with Nicholas Kristof—where hours before President Trump addressed the nation saying we’re bombing an airfield, she was recommending we should be bombing his airfield. But she said something else in the interview that’s in his column this morning talking about the election. And she said “[She] characterized the mind-set of some Trump voters as, ‘I don’t agree with him, I’m not sure I really approve of him, but he looks like somebody who’s been president before.’” Helene, she believed misogyny played a much larger role in this than it’s been analyzed by many of us. What do you say?
HELENE COOPER: I think many women probably feel that way. And I don't think I would necessarily dismiss that. I've talked to plenty of Trump voters who say they just didn't like Hillary, including women who said, no, there's just something -- I just didn't like her. I think there's something to be said for that.
But I think we can’t pretend that this sort of misogyny doesn’t exist. I think it would be naïve.
DANIELLE PLETKA: Oh, come on.
TODD: Dani, she took it a step further. She said that women in power just get negatively characterized over time more so than men. That was the larger argument. What do you say?
PLETKA: Okay, first of all, Hillary Clinton doesn't want to take responsibility for anything. She lost the election because she's Hillary Clinton, not because she's a woman. And, yes, of course, women in power are more negatively portrayed, hard-charging man, a woman is a -- can I go after Lindsey graham and use a bad word? We know what it is. Look, if you want to be a woman who's influential than stand up to it, ignore it and it will change over time. Screaming about misogyny doesn't change things.
DAVID BROOKS: Yeah I disagree. Gender politics clearly played a role in this election.
PLETKA: Ek
BROOKS: Not so much -- not necessarily misogyny but certainly -- Donald Trump is a cliché of old-fashioned masculinity and a lot of people long for that kind of masculinity which is never coming back but they long for it. And so, to say that his hyper-macho stereotype is not part of why he got elected, I mean, it wasn't his knowledge.
TODD: You're nodding.
RICH LOWRY: You saw this in the primaries. Where t didn't matter how sophomoric Donald Trump was being, if you’re standing in the middle of the debate stage he was a bigger figure than anyone else up there. So he had a certain executive bearing and that helped, but ultimately Hillary Clinton is not just not good at politics. She's not a good campaigner and she's probably the one active politician in the country who could have lost to Donald Trump and she did.
TODD: And you don't think -- you think another woman could have beaten Donald Trump?
LOWRY: A likable woman could have, yes.
With all the big news this past week, I tuned in to see how they would present it. When ‘Sleepy Eyes’ started on the reason Hillary lost, I tuned out. Can’t believe these people. Does anyone watch on a regular basis? Does anyone seek information from them anymore? Pitiful...
They just can’t admit that it’s her.
People don’t like her and they cannot fathom that.
nope- she lost because she, the left, and you folks at meet the press are CLUELESS
Hillary gave off that mommy dearest vibe. The truth is she’s even worse than that.
It’s interesting that David Brooks said that Trump exudes hyper-masculinity and Americans long for it. He said that that kind of masculinity is never coming back.
He obviously wants us servile.
Isn’t this glorious?
Four months after the election watching Hillary and her media sycophants endlessly agonize over her loss and listening to them come up with one excuse after another is almost as good as seeing Trump win and Hillary lose on election night.
Let them keep rooting in liberal filth for one excuse after another.
I’d be happy to see them continue in pain and agony and self flagellation for at least the coming 4 years!
They deserve it!!
They are all nuts. she lost because..
1-we could not stand her. Even back in1992 with Hillary Care she was fingernails on a chalk board.
2-Her campaign was run poorly. They took WI and MI for granted and on the trail her speeches were “ I am not Trump” he had a vision she did not.
3-You can blame, Comey, the Russians, Wikileaks, or even UFOs, but they content of those emails and the fact her private email server and Clinton Foundation stunk to high hell.
Can she just go away and take Rosie O’Donnell with her?
Just stop. Everyone knows Hillary lost because she was a lying, corrupt, criminal POS. Nothing more, nothing less.
Hillary lost because she is a self-serving, Liberal criminal who had nothing new to offer. Just look at ALL the female misogynist who voted for President Trump.
I cannot stand Hillary.
Who can?
Of course it was misogyny. It sure has hell had nothing to do with the russians.
Make up my mind NBC.
Maybe it was misogynistic russians? Maybe it was illegal aliens that didn’t know how to vote correctly?
Maybe it was that BITCH SOCIALIST you had as a candidate, hell I don’t know.
2. Because she never really earned anything, she was a phony and her condescending attitude (as portrayed in the NYU gender debate) like she had really earned the credentials to be there did more to hurt her than being a woman. Calling half of American "deplorable" was stupid and the insensitivity toward the coal-miner father was contemptuous. The "wiping the server with a cloth" with a hacking laugh afterward was another show of her arrogance.
3. She was either unhealthy or lazy and was a lousy campaigner.
4. Best of all, blaming everybody else for her loss and NEVER TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING THAT WENT WRONG is proof unto itself that she wasn't Presidential material and would have been a lousy one if elected.
The Democrats think only in terms of identity politics and thought 54-million single woman would be in goose-step (yes, they are really deserving of Nazi-like labels) to vote for Hillary. She didn't women voters credit for being as smart as they were.
Yes, that was the reason. It had nothing to do with ...
... her health issues ... the Clinton Foundation ... Benghazi ... corruption ... Huma ... Weinergate ... grating voice ... repugnant personality ... rapist husband ... body odor ... drinking problem ... incontinent lying ... insane clown running mate ... bizarre clothing ... jitterbug eyeballs ... paranoid comments ... witch’s cackle ... once a month campaign schedule ... Podesta’s emails ...
ping to #73 ;-)
No kidding. People who rely on NBC and their ilk for information must feel like schizophrenics. You think you've got a handle on a story, go the kitchen to get a sammich and when you get back to the living room the whole thing is turned on its head or gone forever.
Now you understand why liberals are crazy.
They are the party of confusion and chaos.
They have a leader.
See new tagline, thanks for the inspiration!
misogyny: noun 1. hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women, or prejudice against women.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/misogyny
I remember a statement from 2008 in that Hillary would never be elected president as she reminds men of everything wrong with their first wife.
I think a new word is needed for what the left practices:
Consogyny: The extreme hatred and relentless attacks on conservative women by the left.
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