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China's 2nd aircraft carrier coming this month, India loses edge
Business Standard ^ | April 1, 2017 | Ajai Shukla

Posted on 04/02/2017 8:16:51 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 04/02/2017 8:16:51 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I like it. What are we going to do if they build 24 more?
I think our own Marines could use something like that.


2 posted on 04/02/2017 8:41:17 PM PDT by armourenthusiast (Trumperific)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Here’s the Imperial March to accompany that pic => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzntZLHcYy0


3 posted on 04/02/2017 9:05:31 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Maybe the U.S. could build a carrier India would buy. Made in America! More jobs! More exports! More winning! Go Trump!


4 posted on 04/02/2017 9:08:59 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

when I see these big carriers, USA based or not, I can’t help but think of the Repulse and the Prince of Wales, which were the first capital ships sunk by air attack on open seas.

the British commander apparently did not believe that modern battleships could be sunk by air attack alone.

Do carriers have a similar vulnerability to some new weapon or tactic? They represent a huge investment in a single ship. The same money could pay for many small ships.

Is there any way to decentralize the aircraft carrier function to many small ships?

I’m not a military expert, just asking the question.


5 posted on 04/02/2017 10:46:14 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (Build the wall !)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

When the “Varyag” was purchased from the Ukrainians I thought the Chicoms were going to make it into a hotel/casino? What happened? Rhetorical question of course.


6 posted on 04/02/2017 11:04:55 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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It’s my understanding that the ships themselves are quite sinkable and are one in a group of ships who protect it, along with aircraft and other assorted weaponry.

I don’t know how they protect against torpedoes.


7 posted on 04/03/2017 1:25:06 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust cIonservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Reverend Wright

Carriers are sitting ducks and rather expensive ducks at that


8 posted on 04/03/2017 1:29:18 AM PDT by vooch
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Last November, her political commissar declared the Liaoning was “combat ready”.

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9 posted on 04/03/2017 2:44:29 AM PDT by Tallguy
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Is there any way to decentralize the aircraft carrier function to many small ships?

Fleet air defense is the #1 priority for the USN. That has been neglected somewhat since the retirement of the F-14A/D and the AIM-54 Phoenix Missile a few years before that. If a battle group could be build around a small flight deck (say LHA/LHD class vessel) you could conceivably use unmanned drones. But there would have to be artificial intelligence to handle the engagements. Things would happen too fast to be using a data-link.

10 posted on 04/03/2017 2:51:44 AM PDT by Tallguy
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"Carriers are sitting ducks and rather expensive ducks at that"

I seem to remember a discussion centered around what makes our carriers almost invincible - the US let it be known that the sinking of a carrier will be given a nuclear response.

11 posted on 04/03/2017 3:44:55 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Paid for with the money from these stupid free trade deals, which have created Chinese tax payers to pay into their military at the expense of American tax payers who could have paid into our military. Thanks free traitors.


12 posted on 04/03/2017 3:49:20 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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Yet another way that all that cheap Chinese crap sold at Walmart and other places hurts us.


13 posted on 04/03/2017 4:44:36 AM PDT by Farmer Dean ("Do you want me to shoot,I'm rested.")
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To: dp0622

Any navy with a half-decent submarine force could take out a carrier. Carriers are only really good for taking on half-arsed mickey mouse navies that don’t have proper subs and for providing air support for invasions of countries that lack a formidable land-based air force.


14 posted on 04/03/2017 4:59:53 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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Wouldn’t a carrier have an attack sub in its group to detect and eliminate enemy subs? This would be in addition to the ASW capabilities of its other escorts.


15 posted on 04/03/2017 5:11:05 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: dp0622

There is almost no protection truth be known. Let alone a barrage of high Mach supersonic missiles.

Trump and the USN/ defense complex have real issues that 20 years of neglect have not solved.


16 posted on 04/03/2017 6:07:06 AM PDT by whistleduck ("....the calm confidence of a Christian with 4 aces".....S.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

India loses edge? Doesn’t that depend on who has the best planes and pilots? Serious question all.


17 posted on 04/03/2017 7:04:53 AM PDT by houeto
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To: Psalm 73

“Carriers are sitting ducks and rather expensive ducks at that”
I seem to remember a discussion centered around what makes our carriers almost invincible - the US let it be known that the sinking of a carrier will be given a nuclear response....”

So they really are sitting ducks


18 posted on 04/03/2017 1:13:32 PM PDT by vooch
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Good to know we have, what, 22 of them?

Good Grief.

Maybe China is building them for the little countries that have an issue with their new island.


19 posted on 04/03/2017 5:23:46 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust cIonservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: vooch

In this day and age Carriers are LSTs. Large slow targets.


20 posted on 04/03/2017 10:44:22 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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