Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Jim Robinson
If the HFC "moved the goalposts", as reliably asserted by someone who has close contacts within the administration, then they deserve to be criticized for it.

Freeper "LS" has positively asserted that this is the case.

I was against this Ryan-sponsored bill, but if the HFC didn't negotiate in good faith, that changes the situation "bigly".

As for the American People only supporting the bill at 17%, I bet there's NO bill that could be created that would enjoy majority support, or anything even close.

After all, the support for total repeal is at the same level, 20% or less.

This coalition is fracturing, as evidenced by the fact that the HFC has already lost 1 member since this debacle.

Things are not looking good for anyone but Democrats...

22 posted on 03/30/2017 10:49:19 AM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: sargon

Something you need to know about that 1 member, Ted Poe

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/11/senior-gop-congressman-ted-poe-once-immigration-hardliner-softens-stance.html


25 posted on 03/30/2017 10:53:04 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies ]

To: sargon

Moved the goal post? The goal post is right where it’s always been: Full repeal of Obamacare, replace with free market solutions.

Gee, that’s a tough job. Damn right it is and that’s why we chose a fighting general to git ‘er done!

It was a tough job for Lincoln. For MacArthur. For Patton. For FDR! All of these guys battled the enemy and the press and public opinion and they were doggedly determined, persistent and they prevailed despite all obstacles.

Because they were in the right. The American people know when you are in the right.

You can’t get it done by throwing in the towel!

You sure as hell can’t drain the swamp by becoming a swamp dweller!

The American people love a fighter and will come along if there’s no quit in him. That’s precisely what got him elected.


52 posted on 03/30/2017 11:04:51 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies ]

To: sargon
The House Freedom Caucus opposed in a series of fluid negotiations a healthcare bill that was so bad, so leftist, so contrary to every conservative principle that even you opposed it.

Now we are supposed to believe from included hearsay on hearsay that the Freedom Caucus "moved the goalposts" whatever that might mean. It is is a political negotiation, there are offers and counter offers, there are demands and counter demands there are negotiating positions and new negotiating positions. Moving the goalposts indeed!

Let us assume that they did not move the goalposts, that they did not negotiate in "good faith" as you assert on the basis of included hearsay, that does not change the quality of the health care bill and it certainly does not change the quality of the health care bill "bigly."

The legislation was either good or bad, quite apart from the negotiating positions of all the various parties involved. If the bill was bad as hearsay evidence led you to believe, it was the principled duty of every member of the House as well as of the President of the United States to oppose it.

Evidently, only the Freedom Caucus and a few other patriots did.


125 posted on 03/30/2017 12:00:58 PM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson