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To: sargon
The House Freedom Caucus opposed in a series of fluid negotiations a healthcare bill that was so bad, so leftist, so contrary to every conservative principle that even you opposed it.

Now we are supposed to believe from included hearsay on hearsay that the Freedom Caucus "moved the goalposts" whatever that might mean. It is is a political negotiation, there are offers and counter offers, there are demands and counter demands there are negotiating positions and new negotiating positions. Moving the goalposts indeed!

Let us assume that they did not move the goalposts, that they did not negotiate in "good faith" as you assert on the basis of included hearsay, that does not change the quality of the health care bill and it certainly does not change the quality of the health care bill "bigly."

The legislation was either good or bad, quite apart from the negotiating positions of all the various parties involved. If the bill was bad as hearsay evidence led you to believe, it was the principled duty of every member of the House as well as of the President of the United States to oppose it.

Evidently, only the Freedom Caucus and a few other patriots did.


125 posted on 03/30/2017 12:00:58 PM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Now we are supposed to believe from included hearsay on hearsay that the Freedom Caucus "moved the goalposts" whatever that might mean.

The "hearsay" you're whining about comes from two different reliable sources, one of which was a member of the Freedom Caucus himself, and another of which is more well connected to the administration than you'll ever be.

Actually, three sources, because one of the sources is the President himself. He clearly thinks that there was a lack of good faith. Hence his comments about "loyalty".

So keep on throwing your stones, Tokyo Rose, and know that you're delighting the enemy with your conscious effort to undermine morale.

The "truth"—which you seem to think you have a monopoly on—can be presented in very disingenuous wrappings.

Someone like Jim Robinson knows how to offer constructive criticism.

You, on the other hand, are doing nothing but being destructive. You're simply too wrapped up in your own self-righteousness to realize it.

When you—for acting like a petulant child—got put on timeout by JimRob, it was for a perfectly legitimate reason.

I've stated before that I believe that Freepers can legitimately disagree as to whether this healthcare bill should have been passed or not.

What I categorically reject is the idea that anyone's patriotism should be called into question based upon which stance they took.

That is to be distinguished from someone who believes the President is a "con man", and allows that belief to slant everything they say about him...

188 posted on 03/30/2017 1:49:14 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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