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Interior secretary on wall: We're not going to cede Rio Grande to Mexico
The Hill ^ | 03/29/2017 | Ben Kamisar

Posted on 03/29/2017 7:47:33 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke on Tuesday mused about the difficulties of building President Trump's signature border wall on the Mexican border, asserting that America can't give away the Rio Grande to Mexico in the process.

"The border is complicated, as far as building a physical wall," he said during a speech to the Public Land Council in Washington D.C., according to E&E News.

"The Rio Grande, what side of the river are you going to put the wall? We're not going to put it on our side and cede the river to Mexico. And we're probably not going to put it in the middle of the river."

The report also said Zinke admitted that the administration could instead rely on electronic defenses or could skip building the wall in certain areas where terrain may make crossing improbable.

Thanks to a 1970 treaty negotiated between the United States and Mexico, the middle of the Rio Grande serves as the boundary between the two countries in some places. That treaty, as well as the natural shifts of the river, served as a stumbling block to previous attempts to build border fencing and could complicate the Trump administration's push for a wall.

Trump made the construction of a border wall to stem the flow of illegal immigration a centerpiece of his presidential campaign. Once in the Oval Office, Trump almost immediately signed an executive order calling for the wall to be built and the Department of Homeland Security has requested proposals for the wall.

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To: central_va

Perhaps you aren’t aware, but there were many, many fights about the interstates. Some of them, especially the ones through the major cities, were blocked. Examples include Interstate 95, which was supposed to go through Washington, D.C. but doesn’t; Interstates 66 and 270, which were supposed to go into Washington and link up with Interstate 95, but don’t; and Interstate 70, which was supposed to go through Baltimore and link up with Interstate 95, but doesn’t. Also, Interstate 95 was supposed to go through the downtown part of Baltimore, but was rerouted to the southern part of the city.

And that’s just two cities. There are lots more where that came from.

I’m not at all saying that because some folks protested the interstates, we can’t build the wall. Far from it. But the idea that the interstates were welcomed by one and all is simply not supported by history.


81 posted on 03/29/2017 9:53:59 AM PDT by bus man (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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To: bus man

Compared to it’s length, 47,000 miles, I’d say there were few issues in acquiring the land to build this HUGE hi-way system. I would say the 2,000+ miles for the wall is a tiny effort compared to that.


82 posted on 03/29/2017 9:57:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GIdget2004

This wall will turn into a military conflict. So be it.


83 posted on 03/29/2017 10:04:22 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: LS

The war on drugs has led to asset forfeiture and forced colonoscopies, the latter to make sure people aren’t muling. End it now; the thuggos can then ask us if we want fries with that.

But build the wall, too!


84 posted on 03/29/2017 10:11:40 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan: http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: GIdget2004
I think we should build the wall a mile or two south of the river.

Say we are taking it in payment for their being a pain and violating our border.

85 posted on 03/29/2017 10:19:12 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Rusty0604

Those policies can be changed. In fact, Obama changed them without going through Congress.


86 posted on 03/29/2017 10:34:46 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I hope they will be changed.


87 posted on 03/29/2017 10:36:13 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Vic S

Meh, we can just “rejob” them to doing routine maintenance and surveillance of the wall :P

Just like “Game of Thrones”, put all the undesirables on the Wall and be rid of them!


88 posted on 03/29/2017 10:37:28 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: McGavin999

We could easily put gates every few miles to let the cattle through, with a manned guard post so nobody can open them up for the illegals.


89 posted on 03/29/2017 10:39:52 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: CharlesWayneCT

How about option #4:

build the wall outside the river’s flood plain, with gates every few miles with a manned guardpost to let the cattle ranchers get to and fro when they need access to the river?


90 posted on 03/29/2017 10:44:00 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
I doubt any ranchers let their cattle drink that polluted water. It is a red herring argument. My guess is they use wells and wind mills like the rest of Texas.


91 posted on 03/29/2017 10:45:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jcon40

It’s a moot point. We’ve controlled the territory for well over a century. Whether it was obtained “legally” or “illegally”, it’s ours now, unless Mexico can muster the force to take it back.


92 posted on 03/29/2017 10:48:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: eyeamok

I’m sure the union will find them something to do.


93 posted on 03/29/2017 10:50:31 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: Boogieman

Good thought but that’s not how cattle work. There are ways around this problem. Especially if the rest of the border is walled off. It could be monitored with drones, BP, cameras all kinds of clever things


94 posted on 03/29/2017 11:00:10 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999

“Good thought but that’s not how cattle work.”

Well, then Trump can make thousands of new jobs for “cattle whisperers” to make them work that way :)


95 posted on 03/29/2017 11:05:25 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: McGavin999

Read up on the bogus cameras installed during GWB admin. Eye opener that.


96 posted on 03/29/2017 11:06:55 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who rewfuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: McGavin999

How do the rest of Texas’s thousands of cattle ranchers that are no where near a river water their heard ? They use windmills and irrigation that’s how. This cattle thing is a red herring.


97 posted on 03/29/2017 11:07:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Building the wall down the
middle would create some
construction difficulties,
but it is certainly doable.
Locks, bridges, dams,and canals
built to date have had to deal
with the control and flow of water.
It may cost a little more, but
Mexico is going to pay for it.


98 posted on 03/29/2017 11:43:13 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: GIdget2004
We were talking about that last night. Would love to see a wall put into the middle of the "international waters".

Then maybe we could get back to fishing the Rio and Amistad without Mexico trying to rob you or shooting at you.

99 posted on 03/29/2017 11:47:10 AM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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To: Lean-Right

If mexico is paying for it, why did the President ask to appropriate 25 billion dollars for it?


100 posted on 03/29/2017 4:10:41 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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