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Interior secretary on wall: We're not going to cede Rio Grande to Mexico
The Hill ^ | 03/29/2017 | Ben Kamisar

Posted on 03/29/2017 7:47:33 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke on Tuesday mused about the difficulties of building President Trump's signature border wall on the Mexican border, asserting that America can't give away the Rio Grande to Mexico in the process.

"The border is complicated, as far as building a physical wall," he said during a speech to the Public Land Council in Washington D.C., according to E&E News.

"The Rio Grande, what side of the river are you going to put the wall? We're not going to put it on our side and cede the river to Mexico. And we're probably not going to put it in the middle of the river."

The report also said Zinke admitted that the administration could instead rely on electronic defenses or could skip building the wall in certain areas where terrain may make crossing improbable.

Thanks to a 1970 treaty negotiated between the United States and Mexico, the middle of the Rio Grande serves as the boundary between the two countries in some places. That treaty, as well as the natural shifts of the river, served as a stumbling block to previous attempts to build border fencing and could complicate the Trump administration's push for a wall.

Trump made the construction of a border wall to stem the flow of illegal immigration a centerpiece of his presidential campaign. Once in the Oval Office, Trump almost immediately signed an executive order calling for the wall to be built and the Department of Homeland Security has requested proposals for the wall.

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To: central_va

What an intelligent ass you are. I never said I didn’t want the wall - I DO. But the river IS vital to Texas and concerns need to be addressed for those who live along the border and depend on it. Maybe YOU should STHU instead of telling other Freepers to do so, especially about something you are truly ignorant on.
The term “Welcome to Texas” does not apply to you.


41 posted on 03/29/2017 8:40:53 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: tumblindice

I-10 easement covers more land than the border wall and that is just ONE interstate.


42 posted on 03/29/2017 8:40:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: texas_mrs

It ain’t up to Texas we own that international border so pack sand.


43 posted on 03/29/2017 8:42:01 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cba123

SO what is your answer to the question? Do we invade mexico and build the wall on their side, cutting them off from the river? Do we build an impassable wall on our side of the river, cutting off our people, along with all the animals that require the water, from the river?

Or do you think we’ll build an impassable wall right down the middle of the river, creating two rivers separated by concrete?


44 posted on 03/29/2017 8:43:55 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Rurudyne

Yes, Secretary Zinke is either being disingenuous or doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Any homeowner knows you can set your stockade fence back a few feet so you can maintain the exterior and not trespass. It remains your property.
Anyone trying to tie-in to your fence or mow that little strip does so only with your permission.


45 posted on 03/29/2017 8:44:27 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: GIdget2004

The wall should be built El Paso to San Diego.


46 posted on 03/29/2017 8:45:11 AM PDT by marron
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To: KarlInOhio

We probably need the wall on our side, but that means we need a way for animals, and our own people, to get through to the other side to access the river.

There are places where the river’s changes have actually left american soil on the far side of the river now, and those people sometimes use boats for access to their own country — so we need to account for that if we build a wall.

What we need is a barrier that prevents unwanted people from easily accessing our country. You build a solid wall, people can still just go around the ends in either the pacific ocean or the gulf.

And given that California is a sanctuary state, and they have the beaches easily accessed by Mexicans through the Pacific ocean, we’ll clearly need better coast guard enforcement to keep boats from reaching that shore.

We should put up cameras all along the border, and let americans monitor them,.


47 posted on 03/29/2017 8:47:28 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: central_va
Thanks for the lovely mail below. You really have been triggered today, haven't you? I'm off to work - no more trifling with your adolescent mind.

"Re: Interior secretary on wall: We're not going to cede Rio Grande to Mexico From central_va | 03/29/2017 8:42:50 AM PDT new

I made you look like a fool which wasn’t too hard actually."
48 posted on 03/29/2017 8:48:25 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Irrigation pipes, problem solved.


49 posted on 03/29/2017 8:50:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Regulator
Pikes on the North shore of the river will do just fine.

Claymore, anti-personnel mines, and radiological materials also work...

50 posted on 03/29/2017 8:53:43 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: eyeamok

I agree. But you won’t find many others here that will


51 posted on 03/29/2017 8:53:50 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: marron
This is so silly

The land acquired for the interstate highway system dwarfs the land need for a border wall. I never heard one complaint about that mean old government taking our land. LOL!


52 posted on 03/29/2017 8:54:01 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

We build the wall on our side and use irrigation techniques developed 4,000 years ago enhanced with modern pumps and pipes..


53 posted on 03/29/2017 8:55:28 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: texas_mrs

The problem the rest of us have with this attitude which seems to be shared by a lot of Texicans is that the Mexicans and central Americans slipping across the Texas border don’t stay in Texas. They come to Indiana and many other points north.
We’ll build the wall around Texas and California if we have to ...

OK, three guys are sharing a charter boat fishing on the Gulf of Mexico: a Texan, a Mexican and a Hoosier.
They fish a bottle out of the water.
The Texan horns in on it and rubs it.
Genie appears, says they get only one wish, make it good, etc. etc.

So the Mexican says, “I would wish for a North American Union, si.”

“It is done” says the genie.

The Texan says, “I wish for a wall thirty feet high around my great state of Texas so anyone north, east, west—and especially south!—could not mess with my great state.”

They look towards Harlingen: there it is, gleaming in the sun and stretching off into the distance northeast.

The Hoosier says, “That’s great genie. Now, fill it up with water.”


54 posted on 03/29/2017 8:55:45 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: central_va

I want this dirty drainage ditch in MY backyard, thank you.

55 posted on 03/29/2017 8:55:50 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: marron
The wall should be built El Paso to San Diego.

Hear hear!

56 posted on 03/29/2017 8:56:11 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: eyeamok
Who is going to be the to FIRE 2 out of 3 Government Employee’s across this country if we win the War on Drugs by building a Wall?? We are talking 22 Million nationwide, about 12-14 Million will become unemployed and unemployable.

Go to community college, learn a trade. That's what Dubya told all the displaced American manufacturing workers.

58 posted on 03/29/2017 9:00:40 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Transcript of Rio Grande River Pollution

Rio Grande River stretches 1,896 miles and is the 4th largest river in North America. Flowing through numerous border towns and farmlands, heavy water consumption leaves only 20% of its natural discharge to flow into the Gulf of Mexico. EPA reported in their Rio Grande Toxic Study that edible fish tissue requirements were exceeded in arsenic, mercury, and chlordane. According to TNCRR (Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission) there are over 1,200 warehouses in the Laredo area, which have been built near tributaries without protection for spills or other safe guards. TNCRR has also failed to strengthen the regulation and inspection of the warehouses along the creeks emptying into the Rio Grande River that many believe is a major source of toxic contamination.

59 posted on 03/29/2017 9:02:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GIdget2004
"We're not going to put it on our side and cede the river to Mexico. And we're probably not going to put it in the middle of the river."
And we all know Mexico is not going to put it on their side... So don't build it at all?

Who sold this Montana sportman that fish?

Cede? Are we really going to continue to "cede" the entire SW USA to the invasion of illegals so as to not "cede" the Rio Grand River?

Cede? Does this guy actually think its Americans now using that river to illegally cross into Mexico rather than Mexicans monopolizing that river to cross and smuggle into the US?

60 posted on 03/29/2017 9:06:14 AM PDT by drpix
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