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Interior secretary on wall: We're not going to cede Rio Grande to Mexico
The Hill ^ | 03/29/2017 | Ben Kamisar

Posted on 03/29/2017 7:47:33 AM PDT by GIdget2004

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To: owlbaby58

Water is precious in the west. The water is for cattle on both sides so a wall can’t do it but a mesh fence that is unclimbable would work especially if equipped with sensors, sirens, and cameras


21 posted on 03/29/2017 8:19:45 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: central_va

http://www.allgov.com/news/us-and-the-world/mexico-owes-water-to-us-140909?news=854201

“Mired in the drought that has dried up so much of the Southwest, Texas is losing patience with Mexico, which owes the state millions of gallons of water.

Under the terms of a 1945 agreement, Mexico and Texas are supposed to send each other a certain amount of water. Texas’ share comes from the Colorado River, while Mexico’s originates along the Rio Grande.

Each year, Mexico’s allotment is supposed to total 350,000 acre feet (one acre-foot of water is equivalent to 326,700 gallons). But the country has fallen behind on its deliveries, and currently owes 380,000 acre-feet to the U.S. That’s more water than is used by the 1.5 million Texans in the Rio Grande Valley each year.

Mexican officials insist they can’t help the shortfall due to lack of rainfall going back two decades. “We have had a prolonged drought since 1994 until now. It has been difficult for Mexico to give this water,” Ignacio Peña Treviño, Mexico’s representative on the International Boundary and Water Commission, told The Washington Post. “There isn’t rain like there was in the past.”

But people in Texas aren’t buying the excuse, claiming Mexico hasn’t suffered the kind of drought conditions the Lone Star State has. “They haven’t been in any sort of significant drought conditions since March of 2012,” Carlos Rubinstein, chairman of the Texas Water Development Board, told the newspaper. “That excuse, pardon the pun, doesn’t hold water.”

A study by Texas A&M University says that losses because of Mexico’s failure to deliver its share of water total $229 million and about 5,000 jobs. Still, Rio Grande tributaries in Mexico contain much less water than they have historically. Meanwhile, demand south of the border has gone up, with Mexicans moving north to work in automobile factories in that region.”


22 posted on 03/29/2017 8:21:08 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: GIdget2004

The Rio Grande is only part of the border, specifically, it is the border between Texas and Mexico. That leaves New Mexico, Arizona, and California with dry land as a border. No reason to not get started in these three states.


23 posted on 03/29/2017 8:21:58 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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To: GIdget2004

Do whatever it takes...

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Proclamation_758
“... Now, therefore, I, Theodore Roosevelt, President of the United States, do hereby declare, proclaim and make known that there are hereby reserved from entry, settlement or other form of appropriation under the public land laws and set apart as a public reservation, all public lands within sixty feet of the international boundary between the United States and the Republic of Mexico, within the State of California and the Territories of Arizona and New Mexico...”

Lots of public land back in 1907. I imagine any sales since then reserved this easement. Though maybe they didn’t.


24 posted on 03/29/2017 8:22:08 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: texas_mrs

I just downloaded 100 pictures if the Rio Cease Pool. I did not see one animal drinking from that toilet.


25 posted on 03/29/2017 8:22:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rktman
Yeah, tell Mexico that we're "renegotiating" whatever the he11 treaty set up the boarder in the middle of the river.

The boarder should have been 1/2 mile south of the river.

Sorry for the mix up.

We'll take care of cleaning the up and putting the wall where it should be.

26 posted on 03/29/2017 8:23:43 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: eyeamok
We are talking 22 Million nationwide, about 12-14 Million will become unemployed and unemployable.

Teach them to cut grass ...

27 posted on 03/29/2017 8:25:27 AM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink is dangerous ...)
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To: Vic S

Not defeatist, just a realist, some things are just more important than what the peasants want. The War on Drugs is one of those things.

If the war on drugs is really a way to fill our privatized prisons,”
Never has been and never will be, the War on Drugs is about Power and Control and Getting RICH at the expense of the American Serfs while creating a Semi Police State to exert more authority over the populace.


28 posted on 03/29/2017 8:25:52 AM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
The US Interstate highway system built in the 1950's and 60's cut into huge swaths of private land 200-300 feet across in every state. I do not remember hearing ONE story about eminent domain or problems acquiring the land. I think the Libertarians that infest Free Republic should STHU.

Note: No cows starved to death or died of thirst building this highway.

29 posted on 03/29/2017 8:28:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GIdget2004

Build the whole thing on the Mexican side and annex the territory plus enough buffer zone for a thick minefield.

Arrange buildings at checkpoints so they spell out “GO AWAY” when viewed from space.


30 posted on 03/29/2017 8:29:08 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: rktman

Sounds good to me. Who is Mexico going to complain to, the UN? Pfft..


31 posted on 03/29/2017 8:30:17 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: central_va


I would not describe the Rio Grande as a fetid drainage ditch.
32 posted on 03/29/2017 8:31:05 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: central_va

Well said. I’m fed up with the American’ts as well.

They don’t like the idea of a wall because they know it would work. Screw them. We’re taking back our country!


33 posted on 03/29/2017 8:33:17 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: texas_mrs

Good comment. Thx


34 posted on 03/29/2017 8:33:49 AM PDT by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOS / PC guy forever and always e)
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To: texas_mrs
This is how Israel secured their country: Image and video hosting by TinyPic
35 posted on 03/29/2017 8:35:28 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: texas_mrs
For all you idiots that don't want the wall in Texas they invented a new thing to transport water, they are called "pipes". This is what they look like:
36 posted on 03/29/2017 8:35:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GIdget2004

Building a wall doesn’t cede what’s on the other side of it.


37 posted on 03/29/2017 8:36:05 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: GIdget2004

There have been “committee” meetings since 11/07/16 at various local watering holes around here to formulate a plan for this project. After much consideration and debate, the consensus is that for the Texas portion of the border there should be two walls. In essence, a double wall stretching from El Paso to the Gulf of Mexico. Upon completion the space between the walls would be converted into a moat and stocked with piranhas. The big problem yet to be solved is what to do about Lake Amistad . . . it’s great fishing lake.


38 posted on 03/29/2017 8:37:06 AM PDT by t4texas
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To: eyeamok

Supporting the war on drugs got us a full-spectrum Orwell style surveillance and police state while making zero positive impact on rates of drug use.

At this point, one has to have a hole in their head to want to continue the madness; if not through being appalled at all the senseless violence, at least through the self-interest of not wanting to pay for it.


39 posted on 03/29/2017 8:37:20 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: texas_mrs
Texas City Says Rio Grande Pollution Can Cause Fatal Illness
40 posted on 03/29/2017 8:38:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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