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To: cotton1706

Be careful what you wish for. The left wants it more.


3 posted on 03/26/2017 3:50:11 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

So then tell us why the map looks like this
https://www.conventionofstates.com/nu
and not just the opposite?

Seems so many get the concept of a Constitutional Convention and an Article V Convention of the States mixed up, and thus to what end?


5 posted on 03/26/2017 4:13:31 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Yes, indeed. I can’t imagine why this appeals to people as a strategy.


6 posted on 03/26/2017 4:24:41 AM PDT by Mason
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To: DIRTYSECRET

With all the political NSA apparatus, there may be few that are immune to dem blackmail and extortion.


7 posted on 03/26/2017 4:24:59 AM PDT by momincombatboots (pathway to citizenship... Amnesty history repeats. Walling Illegals In wasn't the idea moron!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
The left wants it more.
The left wants SCOTUS, and with it the whole Constitution. The left would love to control a convention and a ratification - which would accomplish the same thing as controlling SCOTUS, and possibly even more. But, IMHO, the left stands a much better chance of controlling SCOTUS than it does of ratifying a bad amendment, even assuming they could get such out of convention.

Robert Michels' Iron Law of Oligarchy states that in any organization the permanent officials will gradually obtain such influence that its day-to-day program will increasingly reflect their interests rather than its own stated philosophy. That is simply another way of saying that there are amendments which should be proposed, but which Congress itself would never propose - by even so much as a majority, never mind by 2/3 in both houses.

The salient example of which is Term Limits on Congress. You notice that there is a term limit on the president, passed by the first Republican Congress after the Roosevelt Administration and ratified in 1951. No doubt there have since been presidents who would have proposed to the states that term limits be imposed on Congress - but, obviously, there has never been a Congress which proposed any such thing.

Speaking of SCOTUS, the life tenure thing is not entirely satisfactory. I would propose, were I in charge, that a new justice be named every two years, and that the size of the bench be set at eleven justices (rather than, as at present, at the whim of Congress). I would eliminate the filibuster for SCOTUS justices who had been named as candidates prior to the election of the president nominating them. Each two-term POTUS would then leave a legacy of no less than four elevenths of the justices on SCOTUS, and only rarely more. Justices would retire after 22 years on the bench.

Ratification of nominees to SCOTUS would still be a problem if the Senate were not controlled by the party of the president; the Seventeenth Amendment eviscerates the rationale for the Senate as representing the states (instead they represent the people of the states), so I would propose that confirmation of justices either be dispensed with (in effect being done by the Electoral College) or be ratified by the state legislatures instead of the Senate. If the latter, it should be the default that the nominee be confirmed, and action by a majority of the state legislatures be required to veto a nominee. If SCOTUS is going to be reinventing the Constitution with things like Roe v. Wade, the state governments should insist on having a say-so as to who gets on SCOTUS.

A majority of state legislatures should be able to nullify the precedent value of any SCOTUS decision (or non-decision, in case of a tie). And the states should be able to Recall a SCOTUS justice after nullifying three (say) SCOTUS precedents set by such justice.   


16 posted on 03/26/2017 5:06:07 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which ‘liberalism’ coheres is that NOTHING ACTUALLY MATTERS except PR.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

If it is limited “for the purpose of proposing constitutional reforms that limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, impose fiscal restraints, and set term limits for federal officials, including Congress and the judiciary . . .”, then I see no downside. I am just not sure how said limit can be enforced.


19 posted on 03/26/2017 5:17:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“The left wants it more.”

That’s my biggest fear.

Imagine, just as one example, for the left to successfully get the 2nd Amendment redone to redefine it as being for cops, military and bolt action rifle hunting only, with full registration of any private gun.

Now there would have to be massive fraud, on a scale greater than it took to almost get Hitlery in, but they are cornered rats and they will come out fighting litterally for their lives.


22 posted on 03/26/2017 5:42:29 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I used to be for this now I’m not.


23 posted on 03/26/2017 6:11:12 AM PDT by CommieCutter ("Trump is god emperor and he will win." -- some hacker)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

<>Be careful what you wish for. The left wants it more.<>

Go on. Please elaborate your assertion.


43 posted on 03/26/2017 1:51:04 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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