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Trump: Ryan should remain Speaker even if healthcare vote fails
The Hill ^ | March 24, 2017 | Jordan Fabian

Posted on 03/24/2017 1:48:31 PM PDT by EveningStar

President Trump said Friday that Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) should remain Speaker even if the afternoon vote on the GOP healthcare plan fails.

“Yes,” he said when asked whether Ryan should keep his job.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: healthcare; ryan; trump
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To: EveningStar

I already received a gloating e-mail from my Democrat congresswoman. She is telling me what a great day this is for the American people. I think I am going to puke.


41 posted on 03/24/2017 2:21:53 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: WENDLE

Agreed

I note that NO One conservative or otherwise stepped up to be speaker. The spineless wonders begged Paul to save them


42 posted on 03/24/2017 2:28:45 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: EveningStar

That is the official, public position . . . I doubt it is the private position


43 posted on 03/24/2017 2:30:43 PM PDT by RatRipper (The biggest threat to US national security is our government and those in it.)
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To: EveningStar

Is he afraid we’ll get a conservative Speaker?


44 posted on 03/24/2017 2:31:45 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Eddie01

Good point.


45 posted on 03/24/2017 2:31:53 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: dp0622
I don’t know why he would say yes. I’m sick of hearing about 3D Chess. We should have had a repeal of the bill an that’s that. It’s what we voted for.

Exactly so.

46 posted on 03/24/2017 2:31:56 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: EveningStar

Time to start recruiting primary candidates NOW!!!


47 posted on 03/24/2017 2:32:16 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: mrs9x

Of course not, but apparently, you did.


48 posted on 03/24/2017 2:32:54 PM PDT by onyx (Donate Monthly ~ Join 300 Club!)
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To: EveningStar

Trump staying out of it would have been a refreshing change since Obama meddled with just about every legislative activity.


49 posted on 03/24/2017 2:36:49 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: HarleyLady27
Here's some ammo in the meme wars:

50 posted on 03/24/2017 2:37:38 PM PDT by numberonepal (First they came for Sarah, then they came for Herman, and now they've come for Trump.)
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To: dp0622

I agree.

No one can finesse their way to success all the time.

Sometimes the situation calls for putting the hammer down.


51 posted on 03/24/2017 2:42:19 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: EveningStar

Trump is Machiavellian. Same reason he kept Comey and reaches out to Romney and other douche bags. Instead of surrounding himself with yes men, he keeps his enemies close and turns THEM into yes men. Its actually brilliant (3d chess and all)

From Machiavelli’s Prince, Book XX:

The prince will always be to win over to himself with the greatest ease those men who in the beginning of a principality had been enemies, and who are of such quality that to maintain themselves they need somewhere to lean. They are all the more forced to serve him faithfully as they know it is more necessary for them to cancel out with deeds the sinister opinion one has taken of them. And so the prince always extracts more use from them than from those who, while serving him with too much security, neglect his affairs.

And since the matter requires it, I do not want to leave out a reminder to princes who have newly taken a state through internal support within it, that they consider well what cause moved those who supported them to support them. If it is not natural affection toward them but only because those supporters were not content with that state, he will be able to keep them his friends with trouble and great difficulty, because it is impossible for him to make them content. And while reviewing well the cause of this, with examples drawn from ancient and modern things, he will see that it is much easier to gain as friends to himself men who were content with the state beforehand, and therefore were his enemies, than those who, because they were not content with it. became friends and gave him support in seizing it.


52 posted on 03/24/2017 2:43:32 PM PDT by Stopthethreat
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To: HarleyLady27

read post 52. Trump knows exactly what he is doing


53 posted on 03/24/2017 2:45:45 PM PDT by Stopthethreat
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To: DoughtyOne

Ryan is a GOPe stooge.


Actually it’s worse than that. Ryan is a Soros stooge and the deep state knows this. They are more than likely holding that over his head.


54 posted on 03/24/2017 2:53:31 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Stopthethreat

If only he can get RINOs over their fear of winning.


55 posted on 03/24/2017 2:53:34 PM PDT by polymuser (There's a yuuuge basket of deportables.)
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To: Stopthethreat

Where have I ever said in any of my posts that President Trump NEVER knew what he is doing???

You don’t know the support I have for him, apparently, or that statement would never have come out of your keyboard!!!


56 posted on 03/24/2017 2:55:13 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: All

Ryan’s bill could not win the support of the 12% of GOP seats held by this Freedom Caucus no one had heard of 5 yrs ago (before they got NeverTrump Koch money). His bill probably also could not get about 30 votes from GOP moderates because he moved too far rightward.

So in effect he had support from about 170 votes of the GOP conference and lost 55. A conservative bill would have likely . . . oh, not reversed that ratio. It probably would have been 50/50 because some would not want to oppose their Speaker no matter what. So 50/50.

It would get to the Senate. Heller, Collins, Flake (Flake and Heller are both up 2018 and won their seats with < 50% of the vote, with Heller now from solidly blue Nevada). So the bill not only would not get 60, it almost certainly would not get 50.

And before some wacko here says WE PASSED FULL REPEAL BILLS LAST YEAR blah blah. Obama wasn’t going to sign them. The Dems didn’t bother to Filibuster because of that. Now they would filibuster so you gotta have 60, and most of you know this but still want to offer up exclamation points.


57 posted on 03/24/2017 2:58:27 PM PDT by Owen
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To: EveningStar

Ryan needs to go


58 posted on 03/24/2017 3:07:49 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: HarleyLady27

It is not up to Trump or you, but up to the members of the House. We have no say in it, unless Ryan is forced to resign and that will not happen.


59 posted on 03/24/2017 3:10:40 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W

and thank heavens it’s not up to you either!!!


60 posted on 03/24/2017 3:13:45 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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