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SERIOUS CLAIM: FBI’S COMEY ‘FALSELY’ DENIED SURVEILLANCE
WND ^ | 03/23/17 | BOB UNRUH

Posted on 03/23/2017 5:41:00 AM PDT by Enlightened1

'Orwellian Big Brother' intrusion on Trump, other citizens in public and private sector.

The lawyer who founded Judicial Watch and later Freedom Watch, Larry Klayman, has sent a letter to Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., chairman of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, asking him to look at a whistleblower’s evidence of “systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans, again including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen such as Donald Trump, and even yours truly.”

That spying was done, Klayman’s letter contends, by the FBI. It’s become a major issue following President Trump’s assertion that he and Trump Tower were spied upon by the federal government, and the subsequent denials by intelligence and law-enforcement officials, including FBI Director James Comey, who famously cleared Hillary Clinton on accusations she mishandled classified information as U.S. secretary of state.

Klayman has been working with Dennis Montgomery, a former NSA and Central Intelligence Agency contractor who “left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which is classified.”

Montgomery then “sought to come forward legally as a whistleblower to appropriate government entities, including congressional intelligence committees, to expose that the spy agencies were engaged for years in systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: comey; denied; lied; surveillance; trumpwiretaps
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To: Lady Heron

They probably didn’t use the FBI. I’ve assumed all along that it was done through other agencies.


41 posted on 03/23/2017 7:31:45 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Leep

He can’t. A committee member should have specifically asked Comey that question. “Do you speak unequivocally for the other sixteen US intelligence agencies? If you do, how are you certain?”


42 posted on 03/23/2017 7:34:35 AM PDT by allendale
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To: tophat9000

You paint Comey as some kind of smart, connected, powerful player in Washington ... and yet he makes an ass of himself every time he meets a microphone.


43 posted on 03/23/2017 7:40:31 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Will88

“I just wonder if Montgomery still has the data, or duplicates”

Put yourself in his position and then ask that. He’s literally put his life on the line in order to expose the treason within the intelligence community. The Wikileaks data will be confirmed by what Montgomery has.


44 posted on 03/23/2017 7:44:51 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Enlightened1; All
Previously posted...

Serious claim: FBI's Comey 'falsely' denied surveillance

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3537088/posts

45 posted on 03/23/2017 7:51:46 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: tophat9000

“....he thinks hes the kingmaker making breaking everybody.”

He’s squirming now. Realized he’s not as important and big as he hoped himself to be, and the walls are closing in on him. If all goes well, these tyrants are gonna start pointing fingers at each other very soon, hoping to stay out of prison. My biggest fear is that they have a plan to go nuclear (possibly in a literal way) if and when they see there’s no way out.


46 posted on 03/23/2017 7:52:46 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: DrDude

Not looking for it to be published, just evaluated by independent experts for evidence of government wrongdoing. Though I’d think much of it is not classified, or should not be.

Americans have a right to know the nature of the data and whether laws were broken, or if new laws protecting privacy are needed.


47 posted on 03/23/2017 7:56:44 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Alberta's Child

You paint Comey as some kind of smart, connected, powerful player in Washington ... and yet he makes an ass of himself every time he meets a microphone.


Come on...tell me one of these people that doesn’t make an ass of themselves in front of the microphone. That SOP for all of them. Remember they got the media too to spin it

Your got two types. The ones that think they’re super slick....and the one that are super arrogant

Politicians all think they’re super slick

And the Bureaucrats are all super arrogant.


48 posted on 03/23/2017 8:20:17 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: Enlightened1

Comey will resign after he has been drawn quartered and hung out to dry. Firing him will make him a martyr and a voice in opposition to the Trump agenda. Comey needs to be discredited by several branches of government, his own agency and public opinion. Once he is rendered useless, then let him go.


49 posted on 03/23/2017 8:24:54 AM PDT by x_plus_one (NEVER leave a threat you could have destroyed alive on the field of battle.)
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To: Enlightened1

Another great thread about this- thanks!


50 posted on 03/23/2017 8:42:10 AM PDT by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: Will88

IF anything was given to the FBI- I certainly hope this guy made copies. I don’t trust the current FBI.


51 posted on 03/23/2017 8:59:13 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Enlightened1

“I’ll tell you, NSA is being cooperative,” Nunes continued, “but so far the FBI has not told us whether or not they’re going to respond to our March 15th letter, which is now a couple of weeks old.”

The FBI is not cooperating with the House of Representatives’ investigation into the NSA’s surveillance of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, the chairman of the U.S. House Permanent Select Committee, Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), said today.

During an explosive press conference outside the White House, Nunes told reporters that communications from the Trump team were picked up and disseminated within the government during the 2016 campaign. Nunes said sources within the intelligence community presented him with the information. He spoke to the press after briefing the administration.

“We don’t actually know yet officially what happened to General Flynn,” Nunes said of how communications from Gen. Flynn’s calls were leaked to the press. “We just know that his name leaked out but we don’t know how it was picked up yet. That was one of the things that we asked for in the March 15th letter, was for the NSA, CIA, and FBI to get us all the unmasking that was done.”

“And I’ll tell you, NSA is being cooperative,” Nunes continued, “but so far the FBI has not told us whether or not they’re going to respond to our March 15th letter, which is now a couple of weeks old.”

Nunes also reported that as of now, he “cannot rule out” President Obama ordering the surveillance.
And contrary to earlier media reports, Nunes clarified that the surveillance was not related to the FBI’s investigation into possible collusion with Russia. This surveillance, he emphasized to reporters, does not “have anything to do with Russia.”

https://news.grabien.com/story-nunes-fbi-not-cooperating-our-investigation-trump-camp-surve


52 posted on 03/23/2017 9:32:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: Will88

Evaluated by Independant Authories? How is this done with Democrats? FBI won’t tell the truth to the public and nothing is done. NSA conducts illegal activites and nothing is done. why would you think that anyone will let this reach Independant review. It has to go for fofty years of Blue Ribbon Panels, Congressional Oversight, etc... Then everyone forgets what is being evaluated in the first place. Libs will never let this information reach the public.


53 posted on 03/23/2017 9:38:12 AM PDT by DrDude (To the Victor go the spoils! Kick A$$ Trump.)
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To: Alberta's Child

They probably didn’t use the FBI. I’ve assumed all along that it was done through other agencies.

How about not using any US agencies for the monitoring, surveilance, wiretapping, whatever of Trumptower, Trump, Trump’s people and us.

First of two parts and maybe more on the 7+ decades long history of the UK’s spying on our people and us spying on their people.

UKUSA Agreement
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The UKUSA Community: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States

The United Kingdom – United States of America Agreement (UKUSA, /;/ew-koo-sah)[1][2] is a multilateral agreement for cooperation in signals intelligence between Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. The alliance of intelligence operations is also known as the Five Eyes.[3][4][5][6][7]

In classification markings this is abbreviated as FVEY, with the individual countries being abbreviated as AUS, CAN, NZL, GBR, and USA, respectively.[8]

Emerging from an informal agreement related to the 1941 Atlantic Charter, the secret treaty was renewed with the passage of the 1943 BRUSA Agreement, before being officially enacted on 5 March 1946 by the United Kingdom and the United States. In the following years, it was extended to encompass Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Other countries, known as “third parties”, such as West Germany, the Philippines, and several Nordic countries also joined the UKUSA community.[9][10]

Much of the sharing of information is performed via the ultra-sensitive STONEGHOST network, which has been claimed to contain “some of the Western world’s most closely guarded secrets”.[11]

Besides laying down rules for intelligence sharing, the agreement formalized and cemented the “Special Relationship” between the UK and the USA.[12][13]

Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973,[14] and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005.

[13] On 25 June 2010, for the first time in history, the full text of the agreement was publicly released by the United Kingdom and the United States, and can now be viewed online.[9][15] Shortly after its release, the seven-page UKUSA Agreement was recognized by Time magazine as one of the Cold War’s most important documents, with immense historical significance.[13]
The global surveillance disclosure by Edward Snowden has shown that the intelligence-sharing activities between the First World allies of the Cold War are rapidly shifting into the digital realm of the Internet.[16][17][18]

Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973,[14] and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement#Origins_.281940s.E2.80.931950s.29


54 posted on 03/23/2017 9:47:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: DrDude

It would have to be an independent counsel with necessary security clearances.


55 posted on 03/23/2017 9:48:39 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Alberta's Child

Part two of ??? parts history of our agreement where the Brits spied on our people and we spied on their people for 7+ decades. Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

“It couldn’t possibly be true, because that is not how our system works,” Pelosi said during a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in Washington.

“We do not investigate, through a FISA court, Americans — here or abroad.”

Well, Nancy how about this: Part two of ??? parts history of our agreement where the Brits spied on our people and we spied on their people for 7+ decades. Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

MUSCULAR (surveillance program)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MUSCULAR (DS-200B), located in the United Kingdom,[1] is the name of a surveillance programme jointly operated by Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) that was revealed by documents which were released by Edward Snowden and interviews with knowledgeable officials.[2] GCHQ is the primary operator of the program.[1]

GCHQ and the National Security Agency have secretly broken into the main communications links that connect the data centers of Yahoo! and Google.[3]Substantive information about the program was made public at the end of October 2013.

Contents:

1 Overview
2 Operational details
3 Reactions and countermeasures
4 Gallery
5 See also
6 References
7 External links

Overview:

The programme is jointly run by:
– Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) (United Kingdom)
– U.S. National Security Agency (NSA)

MUSCULAR is one of at least four other similar programs that rely on a trusted 2nd party, programs which together are known as WINDSTOP.

In a 30-day period from December 2012 to January 2013, MUSCULAR was responsible for collecting 181 million records. It was however dwarfed by another WINDSTOP program known (insofar) only by its code DS-300 and codename INCENSER, which collected over 14 billion records in the same period.[4]
Operational details:

According to the leaked document the NSA’s acquisitions directorate sends millions of records every day from internal Yahoo! and Google networks to data warehouses at the agency’s headquarters at Fort Meade, Maryland.

The programme operates via an access point known as DS-200B, which is outside the United States, and it relies on an unnamed telecommunications operator to provide secret access for the NSA and the GCHQ.[3]

According to the Washington Post, the MUSCULAR program collects more than twice as many data points (“selectors” in NSA jargon) compared to the better known PRISM.[2]

Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

Because of the huge amount of data involved, MUSCULAR has presented a special challenge to NSA’s Special Source Operations. For example, when Yahoo! decided to migrate a large amount of mailboxes between its data centers, the NSA’s PINWALE database (their primary analytical database for the Internet) was quickly overwhelmed with the data coming from MUSCULAR.[5]

Closely related programmes are called INCENSER and TURMOIL. TURMOIL, belonging to the NSA, is a system for processing the data collected from MUSCULAR.[1]

According to a post-it style note from the presentation, the exploitation relied on the fact that (at the time at least) data was transmitted unencrypted inside Google’s private cloud, with “Google Front End Servers” stripping and respectively adding back SSL from/to external connections.

According to the Washington Post: “Two engineers with close ties to Google exploded in profanity when they saw the drawing.” After the information about MUSCULAR was published by the press, Google announced that it was working on deploying encrypted communication between its datacenters.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSCULAR_(surveillance_program)


56 posted on 03/23/2017 9:49:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: Alberta's Child

The head of Britain’s electronic surveillance agency GCHQ has resigned!

23 January 2017*

Robert Hannigan, who has held the post of GCHQ director since 2014, said he was stepping down for family reasons.
He said he was proud of his work but that 20 years in public service roles had “demanded a great deal of my ever patient and understanding family”.

Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said Mr Hannigan had “led the renewal” of national security capabilities to fight terrorism during his time at GCHQ.

Mr Hannigan was director general of defence and intelligence at the Foreign Office before taking over the leadership of GCHQ in 2014.

In a letter to the foreign secretary, he said he was proud of the work he had done and “how many lives have been saved in this country and overseas by the work of GCHQ” but added “now is the right time for a change in direction”.

Mr Hannigan said it was “right” that a new director be in place ready for GCHQ’s 100th anniversary in 2019, but he would stay in the post until a replacement was appointed.

‘Cyber defences’
Sources have told BBC security correspondent Gordon Corera that the resignation was not the result of any concerns over policy in the UK or in the US.

Mr Johnson thanked him for his service, saying he had “set the groundwork for a major transformation of our cyber defences” during his tenure.

There will now be an internal competition within government to identify candidates for the job. Recommendations will then be sent to Mr Johnson and Prime Minister Theresa May for a final decision.

Mr Hannigan was born in Gloucestershire and is a married father-of-two.


57 posted on 03/23/2017 9:53:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: bert
Publication and then digesting it all is near impossible for mere mortals

Which is why they use computers and artificial Intelligence to do it.

58 posted on 03/23/2017 10:44:04 AM PDT by itsahoot (Must learn to resist the compunction to offer advice or help to complainers.)
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